Been married over 20 years, found out recently that he has a child that he has been hiding for 8 years. the child is 8 years old, and the only way he got caught is that the mom sued him for support...Please help... i get out.Divorce in illinois: can marriage be annulled if one spouse fathers an illegitmate child during the marriage?
No, because that does not make your marriage invalid 20 years ago.
You'll have to file for divorce - and I don't blame you.Divorce in illinois: can marriage be annulled if one spouse fathers an illegitmate child during the marriage?
From what I researched for an annulment you would have to prove fraud in this case you say u have been married for twenty years and this wedlock child happened 8 yrs ago so for all u know he was faithful for 12yrs in a marriage willingly on your part so the grounds for an annulment are not met but surely you could probably get a push in divorce proceedings with this knowledge of his extra activities.
Annulment: no.
Grounds for divorce: yes.
Tuesday, August 24, 2010
What do you think about gay marriage?
I just don't understand. The whole thing is so stupid.
What RIGHT does the government have to say ';no, you can't marry?';
Doesn't that COMPLETELY go against the 1st Amendment, which dictates freedom of religion? What if someone's atheist, or their religion dictates that there's nothing wrong with gay marriage? What happened to separation of church and state?
I'm so sick of these religious people who think their religion is SO GREAT that it should just be made the law of the land.
One of the many reasons that extremely religious people piss me off.What do you think about gay marriage?
i agree completely with you. But since there are more Bible thumpers than people with their eyes and minds open - this ';free'; country will continue to allow that little black book to dictate our laws.
Just watch pretty soon only rich white old men will be able to get married to young tiny no brained puppets. it's the way it's ';supposed'; to be. God says so. Just ask a Bible thumperWhat do you think about gay marriage?
the main problem is marriage has religious overtones that the civil government chooses to accept as the only way marriage is legal. Get that part figured out and go for it. I think you are going to have to get the laws changed first.
Everyone has their opinion and they or other people make a big deal out of it. I wish they won't. Everyone has a right to marry anybody. I have 2 gay friends who are getting married soon and I am very happy for them.
I agree with you. If people love eachother, they should be able to get married. How would you like it if I went up to someone and said they can't marry because of what they do? It's the exact same thing! :\
if u love some1 then i think u should marry them if u want whether u r the same sex or not there is nothing wrong w/ that ppl cant help it if there lesbian straight gay or bi thats who they r i think it should be allowed
i'm completely pro-gay marriage...everybody has the right to get married
i wish people would open their minds
but most importantly they need to open their hearts =)
Society is built around the family.
Your mother and your father.
Legitimizing deviancy will have a devastating effect on society.
me personaly i think its gross..for a man to marry another man..like whyyyy??? look at all these women out here and you dont like boobs at all?
nah im jk they should marry who ever as long as there happy
(still think its gross though)
It's horrible. Why is it wrong to be gay? Why is it right to like the opposite sex?
Homophobia is gay
I'm not against it, as long as they love each other I think that's all that matters
I think they should legalize it in all states.
I really don't see whats so wrong about it!!
Love has no gender.
I am completely for it (:
let them marry, why shouldn't they be just as miserable as the rest of us?
People should do what they want with their lives.
I'm all for it. Love knows no race, and no gender.
Are the freaking women on the planted not good enough?!
..
Yeah, that's what I think.
It's ewwie.
Oh, and btw, I guess it's okay. I mean I'm not like mad or anything, I simply don't care. :)
I don't think about these things..
Blehh. I'm happy and gay.
Gay as in the other definition; joy and happiness.
Not gay gay.
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People should have the right to marry who they love, that's my stand.
I Think that they should have the right, to make that choice.
people should have the right to anything, its a free country in america
I agree with you %100. In fact I just had a conversation with my friend about this where we were basically saying exactly what you just said. And now with this horrible thing with prop. 8 and trying to get couples divorced?!? It's horrible. They'd be breaking up so many families! That makes me want to cry.
I honestly don't understand why people think we should get to decide things about each others' lives. If you don't want to marry someone of the same sex, then fine, don't. What harm is it to you if someone else does?
Love is love. It makes me so mad that anyone thinks that two people who love each other shouldn't be allowed to marry. And beyond that, they think it should be ILLEGAL for them to marry, just because it goes against their religion. Isn't that half the reason people came here in the first place - freedom of religion? (okay I just re-read your question and realized you already mentioned that but oh well)
I think it's crazy that there's even an argument about who should get to marry who. Like only certain kinds of people can have the benefits, the rights of a married couple? Why? It doesn't make any sense to me.
I totally agree with you.
I am christian.
I have gay family members who are in love.
I find it wrong that just because there physological preferences are different, that doesn;t mean they should be treated different.
Okay, so since a bunch of REALLY REALLY religilous people will never let this TOTALLY happen since it says in the bible that its not right.... so gay MARRIAGE, will never leageally hapen around the world.
But....
why can't the world make a up a new type of commitment that has the EXACT same beneits of marriage.... but call it a different name so god and religious people don't get P'Oed? Nobody said it was illgeal to copy something like marriage from what i have heard.... so why can't we make something exactly like marriage, with out the WORD matromony or marriage..... god said they cannot get MARRIED, but not ';Committed';
;)
_jane
thanks for my rant!
What RIGHT does the government have to say ';no, you can't marry?';
Doesn't that COMPLETELY go against the 1st Amendment, which dictates freedom of religion? What if someone's atheist, or their religion dictates that there's nothing wrong with gay marriage? What happened to separation of church and state?
I'm so sick of these religious people who think their religion is SO GREAT that it should just be made the law of the land.
One of the many reasons that extremely religious people piss me off.What do you think about gay marriage?
i agree completely with you. But since there are more Bible thumpers than people with their eyes and minds open - this ';free'; country will continue to allow that little black book to dictate our laws.
Just watch pretty soon only rich white old men will be able to get married to young tiny no brained puppets. it's the way it's ';supposed'; to be. God says so. Just ask a Bible thumperWhat do you think about gay marriage?
the main problem is marriage has religious overtones that the civil government chooses to accept as the only way marriage is legal. Get that part figured out and go for it. I think you are going to have to get the laws changed first.
Everyone has their opinion and they or other people make a big deal out of it. I wish they won't. Everyone has a right to marry anybody. I have 2 gay friends who are getting married soon and I am very happy for them.
I agree with you. If people love eachother, they should be able to get married. How would you like it if I went up to someone and said they can't marry because of what they do? It's the exact same thing! :\
if u love some1 then i think u should marry them if u want whether u r the same sex or not there is nothing wrong w/ that ppl cant help it if there lesbian straight gay or bi thats who they r i think it should be allowed
i'm completely pro-gay marriage...everybody has the right to get married
i wish people would open their minds
but most importantly they need to open their hearts =)
Society is built around the family.
Your mother and your father.
Legitimizing deviancy will have a devastating effect on society.
me personaly i think its gross..for a man to marry another man..like whyyyy??? look at all these women out here and you dont like boobs at all?
nah im jk they should marry who ever as long as there happy
(still think its gross though)
It's horrible. Why is it wrong to be gay? Why is it right to like the opposite sex?
Homophobia is gay
I'm not against it, as long as they love each other I think that's all that matters
I think they should legalize it in all states.
I really don't see whats so wrong about it!!
Love has no gender.
I am completely for it (:
let them marry, why shouldn't they be just as miserable as the rest of us?
People should do what they want with their lives.
I'm all for it. Love knows no race, and no gender.
Are the freaking women on the planted not good enough?!
..
Yeah, that's what I think.
It's ewwie.
Oh, and btw, I guess it's okay. I mean I'm not like mad or anything, I simply don't care. :)
I don't think about these things..
Blehh. I'm happy and gay.
Gay as in the other definition; joy and happiness.
Not gay gay.
%26gt;.%26lt;
People should have the right to marry who they love, that's my stand.
I Think that they should have the right, to make that choice.
people should have the right to anything, its a free country in america
I agree with you %100. In fact I just had a conversation with my friend about this where we were basically saying exactly what you just said. And now with this horrible thing with prop. 8 and trying to get couples divorced?!? It's horrible. They'd be breaking up so many families! That makes me want to cry.
I honestly don't understand why people think we should get to decide things about each others' lives. If you don't want to marry someone of the same sex, then fine, don't. What harm is it to you if someone else does?
Love is love. It makes me so mad that anyone thinks that two people who love each other shouldn't be allowed to marry. And beyond that, they think it should be ILLEGAL for them to marry, just because it goes against their religion. Isn't that half the reason people came here in the first place - freedom of religion? (okay I just re-read your question and realized you already mentioned that but oh well)
I think it's crazy that there's even an argument about who should get to marry who. Like only certain kinds of people can have the benefits, the rights of a married couple? Why? It doesn't make any sense to me.
I totally agree with you.
I am christian.
I have gay family members who are in love.
I find it wrong that just because there physological preferences are different, that doesn;t mean they should be treated different.
Okay, so since a bunch of REALLY REALLY religilous people will never let this TOTALLY happen since it says in the bible that its not right.... so gay MARRIAGE, will never leageally hapen around the world.
But....
why can't the world make a up a new type of commitment that has the EXACT same beneits of marriage.... but call it a different name so god and religious people don't get P'Oed? Nobody said it was illgeal to copy something like marriage from what i have heard.... so why can't we make something exactly like marriage, with out the WORD matromony or marriage..... god said they cannot get MARRIED, but not ';Committed';
;)
_jane
thanks for my rant!
My friend is absoloutly obsessed with marriage what do i do?
my friend has all over her facebook that she's engadged and all over her myspace and all over her msn everywhere she's obsessed with trying on wedding dresses and getting pre marital councelling i think she is rushing things a bit too quit she only got engadged this year and is planning to get married early next year i just want to know your opinion on getting married so quickly?My friend is absoloutly obsessed with marriage what do i do?
Muriel's Wedding on DVD. I bet your friend has a copy of it too?My friend is absoloutly obsessed with marriage what do i do?
really is nothing to do with you ,,, she in love ,,, most people marry a year later after the ring on finger ,,, so good luck to your friend for a happy marriage,,
tell her to find a partner already
tell her she needs a hobby
Muriel's Wedding on DVD. I bet your friend has a copy of it too?My friend is absoloutly obsessed with marriage what do i do?
really is nothing to do with you ,,, she in love ,,, most people marry a year later after the ring on finger ,,, so good luck to your friend for a happy marriage,,
tell her to find a partner already
tell her she needs a hobby
Is it true that it’s the Mormons who are behind the attempt to get Californians to vote no on gay marriage?
What’s the deal with that? I heard it cost $25 million to have the ballot papers printed up and distributed to polling booths and the Mormons and the ‘Knights of Columbus’ (I’ve never heard of them either) are mainly responsible for raising the funds. Do the Mormons think of themselves as moral guardians of the west coast or something? Is it true that it’s the Mormons who are behind the attempt to get Californians to vote no on gay marriage?
Even Obama and Biden have stated they oppose gay marriage. This is not just about marriage, it is also about judicial tyranny. 4 judges overruled a vote of the people and 2,000 years of legal precedence. Is it true that it’s the Mormons who are behind the attempt to get Californians to vote no on gay marriage?
No... the Mormons are just one of the many groups that have been taking up the cause.
I think they think of themselves as Christians, and Americans.
A lot of people are concerned about the way things went down in CA. The people had already voted against it. The judges overturned and rewrote the law. That's not what the court is supposed to do... they are supposed to interpret the law.
I support same-sex marriage, but not the way the issue was handled in CA.
A lot of conservatives and religious people are afraid that if we end up with a liberal president and a supermajority of liberals in the house, there will be more liberals appointed to the court and this might happen again in more conservative states. I think it's a reasonable concern, the court overstepped their boundaries.
Most fundamentalists think they are the moral guardians of whatever. Of course they are wrong, but it is a waste of time to argue the point. The Mormons are fundamentalists in that they accept the Bible as literal and their dogma is that the world was created some 6,000 years ago. They are scientifically challenged.
The Knights of Columbus is a Roman Catholic Church organization that is socially active.
It is a real pity that this church has chosen to interfere with a matter that should be handled State by State!
Religion is the party who has made the stand that a marital union is a man and a woman!
BUT, that does not cover the fact that there are other partners that want the same concession! They are in love, and want to be together. I know many couples who are married! I know many couple who are NOT married! and the ones who are not married, outnumber the ones who are!
Why? Because relationships, and commitment are not defined by a damned piece of paper!
Mormons are not the moral guardians of anything, except their own salvation, and they should just stick to that!! And they should keep their religious opinions to themselves, and stay out of politics!
What this comes down to?, is that they are persecuting Homosexuals, by attempting to deny them the right to be legally joined with the partner of their choice! Something that the Mormons enjoy, whenever they decide to get married!
Persecution is something that they are very familiar with,%26gt;%26gt; even today!
Perhaps they should remember what that feels like, and back off, and mind their own religious business!
You watched Bill Maher last night, huh??
Got to love that guy! He calls them as he sees them%26gt;%26gt; Ethically, and politically!
Mormons are definately contributing to the vote yes on Prop 8 campaign. They have had letters read by their bishops in their weekly meetings. They have organized email and phone campaigns and they are currently behind the ';WAVE'; campaign as well. Apparently 77% of all the money raised for this campaign has come from Mormon families and not all of them from CA.
They were even organizing a phone campaign with the volunteers based in Orem Utah.
I do not know what level the Knights of Columbus' has gone to but you can be assure that one of the main contribuiters to this campaign is the LDS church.
SUPPORTERS have raised $27.7 million, including $1.4 million from the Connecticut-based Knights of Columbus (Catholic Men's Club); $1.1 million from Irvine-based Fieldstead and Co. owned by financier Howard Ahmanson; $900,000 from retired pediatric surgeon John Templeton Jr. of Bryn Mawr, Pa.; and $500,000 from the Mississippi-based American Family Association.
(Genesis 2:22-24) . . .And Jehovah God proceeded to build the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman and to bring her to the man. 23 Then the man said: “This is at last bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh. This one will be called Woman, Because from man this one was taken.” 24 That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh. . .
(Jude 7) . . .So too Sod′om and Go·mor′rah and the cities about them, after they in the same manner as the foregoing ones had committed fornication excessively and gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed before [us] as a [warning] example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.
Any religion who actually understands and obeys gods laws in the bible is against gay marriage ...
What are you talking about? The Mormons and Knights of Columbus paid for the ballots? Those are provided by the government, and no campaigning materials are allowed in voting places. It's illegal. You can't distribute Vote for this or Vote against that at a polling place. So if they did, they wasted a lot of money.
A Vote for 8 is a Vote for Hate
Please vote No on Proposition 8
wanna outlaw religious liberty in America just to be able to marry your unnatural union? why don't you look at what Palestinian muslims do to them, and why their unnatural ones escape into the Jewish state to not be persecuted for their perversion, and go protest them. Don't interfere with religious liberty, unless you want religion to be dictated to you.
It's true that they have contributed a significant amount of money to support Prop. 8, as well as telling their members to donate time and money to support it.
They think they're the moral guardians of the world, frankly.
Contrary to what Yahuwceph thinks freedom of religion means, it means that he CAN'T force his religious beliefs on others, not that he can. You don't believe in same sex marriage? Then you're free to not marry someone of the same sex.
We're only one of the religions and groups that are promoting Prop. 8. There is nothing wrong with what we're doing either. While religions aren't allowed to support particular candidates they can support ballot issues.
I don't know. I don't care. Christ is my King, so the man-made government of California, (where I live), doesn't matter to me.
The whole world is climbing into the hand basket, and all I care is that I'm no part of it.
Mormons are part of it. The KOC are a Catholic fraternal service organization. However, we have very many people here in Cali who aren't Mormons or Catholics yet they vote yes on Prop 8 too.
The Mormons are among those who are in favor of a normal, traditional marriage.
Are the Mormons supporting prop. 8?
Yes.
Are they the only ones?
No.
:]
If you are going to say that maybe you should list all the groups who are doing that I know you hate Mormons but you need to stop generalizing just one group like you always do
idk
All I know is I support the living tradition of family and a couple in love... thus I support gay marriage!!!
them and many other morally upright people(Amen!!!!).cost is no object if its right.God will provide if we honor him.purple makeup
Even Obama and Biden have stated they oppose gay marriage. This is not just about marriage, it is also about judicial tyranny. 4 judges overruled a vote of the people and 2,000 years of legal precedence. Is it true that it’s the Mormons who are behind the attempt to get Californians to vote no on gay marriage?
No... the Mormons are just one of the many groups that have been taking up the cause.
I think they think of themselves as Christians, and Americans.
A lot of people are concerned about the way things went down in CA. The people had already voted against it. The judges overturned and rewrote the law. That's not what the court is supposed to do... they are supposed to interpret the law.
I support same-sex marriage, but not the way the issue was handled in CA.
A lot of conservatives and religious people are afraid that if we end up with a liberal president and a supermajority of liberals in the house, there will be more liberals appointed to the court and this might happen again in more conservative states. I think it's a reasonable concern, the court overstepped their boundaries.
Most fundamentalists think they are the moral guardians of whatever. Of course they are wrong, but it is a waste of time to argue the point. The Mormons are fundamentalists in that they accept the Bible as literal and their dogma is that the world was created some 6,000 years ago. They are scientifically challenged.
The Knights of Columbus is a Roman Catholic Church organization that is socially active.
It is a real pity that this church has chosen to interfere with a matter that should be handled State by State!
Religion is the party who has made the stand that a marital union is a man and a woman!
BUT, that does not cover the fact that there are other partners that want the same concession! They are in love, and want to be together. I know many couples who are married! I know many couple who are NOT married! and the ones who are not married, outnumber the ones who are!
Why? Because relationships, and commitment are not defined by a damned piece of paper!
Mormons are not the moral guardians of anything, except their own salvation, and they should just stick to that!! And they should keep their religious opinions to themselves, and stay out of politics!
What this comes down to?, is that they are persecuting Homosexuals, by attempting to deny them the right to be legally joined with the partner of their choice! Something that the Mormons enjoy, whenever they decide to get married!
Persecution is something that they are very familiar with,%26gt;%26gt; even today!
Perhaps they should remember what that feels like, and back off, and mind their own religious business!
You watched Bill Maher last night, huh??
Got to love that guy! He calls them as he sees them%26gt;%26gt; Ethically, and politically!
Mormons are definately contributing to the vote yes on Prop 8 campaign. They have had letters read by their bishops in their weekly meetings. They have organized email and phone campaigns and they are currently behind the ';WAVE'; campaign as well. Apparently 77% of all the money raised for this campaign has come from Mormon families and not all of them from CA.
They were even organizing a phone campaign with the volunteers based in Orem Utah.
I do not know what level the Knights of Columbus' has gone to but you can be assure that one of the main contribuiters to this campaign is the LDS church.
SUPPORTERS have raised $27.7 million, including $1.4 million from the Connecticut-based Knights of Columbus (Catholic Men's Club); $1.1 million from Irvine-based Fieldstead and Co. owned by financier Howard Ahmanson; $900,000 from retired pediatric surgeon John Templeton Jr. of Bryn Mawr, Pa.; and $500,000 from the Mississippi-based American Family Association.
(Genesis 2:22-24) . . .And Jehovah God proceeded to build the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman and to bring her to the man. 23 Then the man said: “This is at last bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh. This one will be called Woman, Because from man this one was taken.” 24 That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh. . .
(Jude 7) . . .So too Sod′om and Go·mor′rah and the cities about them, after they in the same manner as the foregoing ones had committed fornication excessively and gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed before [us] as a [warning] example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.
Any religion who actually understands and obeys gods laws in the bible is against gay marriage ...
What are you talking about? The Mormons and Knights of Columbus paid for the ballots? Those are provided by the government, and no campaigning materials are allowed in voting places. It's illegal. You can't distribute Vote for this or Vote against that at a polling place. So if they did, they wasted a lot of money.
A Vote for 8 is a Vote for Hate
Please vote No on Proposition 8
wanna outlaw religious liberty in America just to be able to marry your unnatural union? why don't you look at what Palestinian muslims do to them, and why their unnatural ones escape into the Jewish state to not be persecuted for their perversion, and go protest them. Don't interfere with religious liberty, unless you want religion to be dictated to you.
It's true that they have contributed a significant amount of money to support Prop. 8, as well as telling their members to donate time and money to support it.
They think they're the moral guardians of the world, frankly.
Contrary to what Yahuwceph thinks freedom of religion means, it means that he CAN'T force his religious beliefs on others, not that he can. You don't believe in same sex marriage? Then you're free to not marry someone of the same sex.
We're only one of the religions and groups that are promoting Prop. 8. There is nothing wrong with what we're doing either. While religions aren't allowed to support particular candidates they can support ballot issues.
I don't know. I don't care. Christ is my King, so the man-made government of California, (where I live), doesn't matter to me.
The whole world is climbing into the hand basket, and all I care is that I'm no part of it.
Mormons are part of it. The KOC are a Catholic fraternal service organization. However, we have very many people here in Cali who aren't Mormons or Catholics yet they vote yes on Prop 8 too.
The Mormons are among those who are in favor of a normal, traditional marriage.
Are the Mormons supporting prop. 8?
Yes.
Are they the only ones?
No.
:]
If you are going to say that maybe you should list all the groups who are doing that I know you hate Mormons but you need to stop generalizing just one group like you always do
idk
All I know is I support the living tradition of family and a couple in love... thus I support gay marriage!!!
them and many other morally upright people(Amen!!!!).cost is no object if its right.God will provide if we honor him.
How did the ancient Greeks propose marriage?
Title is self-explanatory... how did the ancient Greeks propose marriage? I've heard that they proposed marriage by tossing an apple to the female, but I don't know if that's true.How did the ancient Greeks propose marriage?
No, it's not true. Ancient Greek marriages were ';arranged';, usually between the head of one family and another. ';Love'; didn't enter into it, and the girl may not have met the boy until the rites. Men generally got married when they were around 30, and the girl was around 15
';At the seasonable time bring home a wife for yourself,
when you are just about thirty, not being many years younger
or being many years older, for this is the best time to marry.
Let a woman mature for four years and be married the fifth year.
And you should marry a virgin that you may teach her to act right,
and especially one who lives in a house near to yours,
looking all around, lest your marriage should give your neighbors amusement....';How did the ancient Greeks propose marriage?
I'd guess the potential husband, or his family went to her father or family. I don't know about the apple story, I've never heard of that, but in most parts of the ancient world, and much of the mid east, africa and asia even today, marriage is an arrangement between families, not the husband and wife.
No, it's not true. Ancient Greek marriages were ';arranged';, usually between the head of one family and another. ';Love'; didn't enter into it, and the girl may not have met the boy until the rites. Men generally got married when they were around 30, and the girl was around 15
';At the seasonable time bring home a wife for yourself,
when you are just about thirty, not being many years younger
or being many years older, for this is the best time to marry.
Let a woman mature for four years and be married the fifth year.
And you should marry a virgin that you may teach her to act right,
and especially one who lives in a house near to yours,
looking all around, lest your marriage should give your neighbors amusement....';How did the ancient Greeks propose marriage?
I'd guess the potential husband, or his family went to her father or family. I don't know about the apple story, I've never heard of that, but in most parts of the ancient world, and much of the mid east, africa and asia even today, marriage is an arrangement between families, not the husband and wife.
What would you serve in you marriage themed restaurant?
NO ladies, I'm not talking about serving oatmeal with a different spice....thats too much like marriage.
How about some vareity?What would you serve in you marriage themed restaurant?
Cut wieners and shrunken meatballs.What would you serve in you marriage themed restaurant?
Erotic Newlywed Sinful Cherry Cupcakes
mole yum mole or quesadillas with some nice spicy salsa.....the tables would be big wedding ring and hand cuff for seats....coolio No!
Curried everything. Never gets boring.
And ice cream for dessert - every flavor imaginable.
Ours would be Thai cuisine.
Hot and spicy with the balance of all the fundamentals needed in making it great :)
Our specialty dish would be Pad Thai.. cause it's my husband favorite!
Walnuts with an old fashion nut cracker..
Just throw the shells on the floor ladies...
They are not needed!!
if you want a threesome tell your wife.
How about some vareity?What would you serve in you marriage themed restaurant?
Cut wieners and shrunken meatballs.What would you serve in you marriage themed restaurant?
Erotic Newlywed Sinful Cherry Cupcakes
mole yum mole or quesadillas with some nice spicy salsa.....the tables would be big wedding ring and hand cuff for seats....coolio No!
Curried everything. Never gets boring.
And ice cream for dessert - every flavor imaginable.
Ours would be Thai cuisine.
Hot and spicy with the balance of all the fundamentals needed in making it great :)
Our specialty dish would be Pad Thai.. cause it's my husband favorite!
Walnuts with an old fashion nut cracker..
Just throw the shells on the floor ladies...
They are not needed!!
if you want a threesome tell your wife.
Why are some people against gay marriage?
first of all, Im a liberal. If people dont believe in gay marriage then I suggest they dont get one. Why stop others from being happy?Why are some people against gay marriage?
Pure ignorance and homophobia.Why are some people against gay marriage?
Many reasons. In the first place, churches are concerned about Biblical dictates on homosexual. If it is considered an abomination, how can they allow it in their church? You have people who are uncomfortable with the gay lifestyle as they see it from some of the more flamboyant examples like leather bar types, butch females, and other exhibitionist trends. You have the concern over pederasty or underage males being solicited. Culture, family upbringing, sensationalism in the news over closeted gays being outed all contribute to the unease over gay marriage. The final straw is the perceived militancy of gay activists who bring out the ire of conservative voters.
personally, i dont believe in gay marriage because i am a christian and in the bible, god clearly states that marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman.
also even not thinking from a biblical standpoint, obviously its not meant to be i mean the way our bodies are designed, a man and a man cant have kids and a woman and a woman cant either. it takes a man and a woman to properly run and make a family.
money. they can say that it's wrong all they want but gay marriage would allow for more tax breaks, people to be covered under insurance, eligible for pensions, property to be exchanged on the partners death with minimal taxes being paid. they would have no way of stopping two men from getting married just for benefits, like straight couples can. there are a few uptight conservatist, but the others on the bandwagon are people with money who want to keep it that way. the fact is you cant look at someone and tell that they are married so how can it bother you? instead of trying to define marriage as between man and woman, because that only defines how to make a baby, they should just have a legal attachments for both gay and straight, because the drama to get a divorce has nothing to do with love
Gay marriage totally destroys the very fabric of society, which is the family. When a gay couple adopt a child, don't you think he/shes going to develop psychological problems when they come to age and notice that he/she's the only person with two mommy's or daddy's? How about when all the kids in middle and high school find out you have two mommy's or daddy's. Don't you think all the other children will make fun of them? I'm not going to elaborate on this anymore because so many more things could happen.
%26lt;br%26gt;On the other hand, GO OBAMA!
well, i guess--speaking for myself--i'm against gay marriage because i believe homosexuality is not healthy for anyone. it's generally caused by emotional damage caused to that individual--which is then transferred into the homosexual lifestyle. for instance--if a man hits a woman, it's generally because of emotional problems or training that he's seen that causes him to be that way--and because it's natural for him to do it--i would in no way condone it. homosexuality is not normal--i've seen an 18 year old boy date a 40+ man and a 50+ man--they all dated each other. is that normal?--i wouldn't even condone an 18 year old girl to do that. drugs make people happy too, should we make that legal as well?
now don't get me wrong, i in NO way hate homosexuals. i know many of them, and enjoy most of them! i just don't agree w/ the lifestyle--will i judge them? no, because i have my flaws as well. i'm going to deal w/ myself, before i deal w/ them. however, i do believe that marriage is God ordained between a man and a woman--and by making it a man to a man, or a woman to a woman, i believe it's making a mockery of that. on top of that, most places where homosexual marriage is made legal, NO ONE gets married any more. it's actually considered abnormal. why ruin marriage for everyone? sorry about the muddled up thought process--it's a lot to try to explain in one paraphraph.
We're guaranteed the right to the PURSUIT of happiness; not the acquisition of it.
Some things are the way they are and weren't ever meant to change. A long, long, long time ago when free states wanted to break away from the church and conduct their own weddings, the church feared that, outside of the purview of God, the institution of marriage would someday be tainted, altered or otherwise perverted.
They were right... and we're living in an age where the sanctity of marriage is almost a laughable concept. It's been forever ruined by those who wish to bend and twist marriage to suit them and make them happy.
I'm not a big believer in ';if you don't like the game, then change the rules.';
I'm more of a ';if you don't like the game, don't play'; kind of guy.
The one thing so-called ';values voters'; have in common is the belief that they have the right to tell others what to do or not do. They believe that because their magic book says something, everyone else should have their own rights restricted. Completely immoral.
This isn't a Christian country. Christianity isn't the state religion. Please keep your superstitions out of my government.
Last time I looked.. the foundation of this country is that all persons are entitled to believe as they choose. Meaning, those against gay marriage are just as entitled to what they believe, as you are.
Where this runs into conflict.. is the idea that just because I believe (or don't believe) something.. none of us have the authority to do whatever we like. That is where law/government and legislators come in to the topic. Legislators are those elected to make our laws for the benefit of the whole country. There will ALWAYS BE PERSONS who disagree with what the law is. Watch this section, for example, for the many 16 yr olds, whining to get emancipated, or pissed because pot has not yet been legalized (as they think it should be).
Right at this moment in time, the issue of gay marriage is in conflict. It is not yet resolved. For example.. is it right that gay persons demand that the law be changed to their preferences, despite the number of persons who feel that it is immoral or wrong? I am not attempting to give you statistics either way.. just giving something to think about. You may feel that the number who approve of it, is in the majority. Others feel that your views are in the minority.
My point is simple that, for the time being, it is not yet legal. It may or may not become legal, I wont' try to guess that one.
But, just a response to your ';why are people against it??';. They are against it, for the very same reasons you are for it. They are exercising their right to freedom of belief.
It does need to be a matter of mutual respect for the beliefs of any other person.
The quetion is why they want to get a gay marriage, why they don't choose other name like union gay. the problem is that the christian marriage is something for women and men. they have to choose other name and live togheter, but don't try to do the same of christian people.
I agree with you.
The only reason they are really against it is because it would legitimize Gay people and their relationships. There by taking one more piece of fear away from them.
Any other argument you hear tonight will be justification for their hate, and not a real argument.
Buff me is the biggest hypocrite here
they deserve happiness as much as the rest of us, the hypocrites who preach for equality but refuse to let gays marry need to be judged to the highest degree
i'm not gay but i have gay friends and they deserve happiness, god wants us to find happiness, not be hypocrites of his word so people accept it or shut up, you just want their happiness in your world
It all comes down to religion. People are against it because they have been taught that it is a sin. What they don't seem to understand is it has nothing to do with religion. It's about basic civil rights. Many religions don't recognize divorce, but that doesn't stop it from being legal. We don't need some archaic mythology to tell us what's right or wrong, just basic common sense.
Cultural or personal prejudice. Marriage in our society confers rights and responsibilities. If two persons love each other enough to commit to the responsibilities they should have the rights that go along with it.
i am totally against gay marriage. i have no problem with them living together forever and being happy. but to legally marry, NO
Although, if i WAS gay i would want the legal right to marry, so i do understand how gays feel
i think it might be because you getting married with in the bible but its a sin?? i dont get why its such a big deal. We are all human and its not like one of you are a different specie. Why not just have a ceramony to confirm your love for each other.
because it is wrong and if there is gay marriage then guys would be walking in the streets kissing and that is totally disgusting. also kids shouldn't see that stuff.
Frankly, it is just incomprehensible to the vast majority. Right or wrong, it is just incomprehensible. It turns them off and they feel estranged.
because they are saying that it wasn't in the bible and anything that wasn't there is wrong bottom line.. it sucks and people should have a choice but that's society!
Because some people are bigots, overly-religious, or ignorant of this country's laws. Until we as a society evolve, people will always be against gay marriage.
It may be against their religion, or some such. People are easily swayed by something as simple as a book all the time.
I think God put a man and women on this earth... NOt 2 men and not 2 women.
Simple as that
Oh yeah... and its GROSS !
The way they were raised
The way that they were taught
The ways of tradition
cause there generation, when they were kids they were thought to think that only man and woman go together. so this new concept is hard for them to accept
cuz its wrong its says so in the bible
Eh, I don't care, as long as it isn't me or something. People just find it weird, but, whatever.
coz for me it's immoral
bc there gay lol!!!!
Pure ignorance and homophobia.Why are some people against gay marriage?
Many reasons. In the first place, churches are concerned about Biblical dictates on homosexual. If it is considered an abomination, how can they allow it in their church? You have people who are uncomfortable with the gay lifestyle as they see it from some of the more flamboyant examples like leather bar types, butch females, and other exhibitionist trends. You have the concern over pederasty or underage males being solicited. Culture, family upbringing, sensationalism in the news over closeted gays being outed all contribute to the unease over gay marriage. The final straw is the perceived militancy of gay activists who bring out the ire of conservative voters.
personally, i dont believe in gay marriage because i am a christian and in the bible, god clearly states that marriage is supposed to be between a man and a woman.
also even not thinking from a biblical standpoint, obviously its not meant to be i mean the way our bodies are designed, a man and a man cant have kids and a woman and a woman cant either. it takes a man and a woman to properly run and make a family.
money. they can say that it's wrong all they want but gay marriage would allow for more tax breaks, people to be covered under insurance, eligible for pensions, property to be exchanged on the partners death with minimal taxes being paid. they would have no way of stopping two men from getting married just for benefits, like straight couples can. there are a few uptight conservatist, but the others on the bandwagon are people with money who want to keep it that way. the fact is you cant look at someone and tell that they are married so how can it bother you? instead of trying to define marriage as between man and woman, because that only defines how to make a baby, they should just have a legal attachments for both gay and straight, because the drama to get a divorce has nothing to do with love
Gay marriage totally destroys the very fabric of society, which is the family. When a gay couple adopt a child, don't you think he/shes going to develop psychological problems when they come to age and notice that he/she's the only person with two mommy's or daddy's? How about when all the kids in middle and high school find out you have two mommy's or daddy's. Don't you think all the other children will make fun of them? I'm not going to elaborate on this anymore because so many more things could happen.
%26lt;br%26gt;On the other hand, GO OBAMA!
well, i guess--speaking for myself--i'm against gay marriage because i believe homosexuality is not healthy for anyone. it's generally caused by emotional damage caused to that individual--which is then transferred into the homosexual lifestyle. for instance--if a man hits a woman, it's generally because of emotional problems or training that he's seen that causes him to be that way--and because it's natural for him to do it--i would in no way condone it. homosexuality is not normal--i've seen an 18 year old boy date a 40+ man and a 50+ man--they all dated each other. is that normal?--i wouldn't even condone an 18 year old girl to do that. drugs make people happy too, should we make that legal as well?
now don't get me wrong, i in NO way hate homosexuals. i know many of them, and enjoy most of them! i just don't agree w/ the lifestyle--will i judge them? no, because i have my flaws as well. i'm going to deal w/ myself, before i deal w/ them. however, i do believe that marriage is God ordained between a man and a woman--and by making it a man to a man, or a woman to a woman, i believe it's making a mockery of that. on top of that, most places where homosexual marriage is made legal, NO ONE gets married any more. it's actually considered abnormal. why ruin marriage for everyone? sorry about the muddled up thought process--it's a lot to try to explain in one paraphraph.
We're guaranteed the right to the PURSUIT of happiness; not the acquisition of it.
Some things are the way they are and weren't ever meant to change. A long, long, long time ago when free states wanted to break away from the church and conduct their own weddings, the church feared that, outside of the purview of God, the institution of marriage would someday be tainted, altered or otherwise perverted.
They were right... and we're living in an age where the sanctity of marriage is almost a laughable concept. It's been forever ruined by those who wish to bend and twist marriage to suit them and make them happy.
I'm not a big believer in ';if you don't like the game, then change the rules.';
I'm more of a ';if you don't like the game, don't play'; kind of guy.
The one thing so-called ';values voters'; have in common is the belief that they have the right to tell others what to do or not do. They believe that because their magic book says something, everyone else should have their own rights restricted. Completely immoral.
This isn't a Christian country. Christianity isn't the state religion. Please keep your superstitions out of my government.
Last time I looked.. the foundation of this country is that all persons are entitled to believe as they choose. Meaning, those against gay marriage are just as entitled to what they believe, as you are.
Where this runs into conflict.. is the idea that just because I believe (or don't believe) something.. none of us have the authority to do whatever we like. That is where law/government and legislators come in to the topic. Legislators are those elected to make our laws for the benefit of the whole country. There will ALWAYS BE PERSONS who disagree with what the law is. Watch this section, for example, for the many 16 yr olds, whining to get emancipated, or pissed because pot has not yet been legalized (as they think it should be).
Right at this moment in time, the issue of gay marriage is in conflict. It is not yet resolved. For example.. is it right that gay persons demand that the law be changed to their preferences, despite the number of persons who feel that it is immoral or wrong? I am not attempting to give you statistics either way.. just giving something to think about. You may feel that the number who approve of it, is in the majority. Others feel that your views are in the minority.
My point is simple that, for the time being, it is not yet legal. It may or may not become legal, I wont' try to guess that one.
But, just a response to your ';why are people against it??';. They are against it, for the very same reasons you are for it. They are exercising their right to freedom of belief.
It does need to be a matter of mutual respect for the beliefs of any other person.
The quetion is why they want to get a gay marriage, why they don't choose other name like union gay. the problem is that the christian marriage is something for women and men. they have to choose other name and live togheter, but don't try to do the same of christian people.
I agree with you.
The only reason they are really against it is because it would legitimize Gay people and their relationships. There by taking one more piece of fear away from them.
Any other argument you hear tonight will be justification for their hate, and not a real argument.
Buff me is the biggest hypocrite here
they deserve happiness as much as the rest of us, the hypocrites who preach for equality but refuse to let gays marry need to be judged to the highest degree
i'm not gay but i have gay friends and they deserve happiness, god wants us to find happiness, not be hypocrites of his word so people accept it or shut up, you just want their happiness in your world
It all comes down to religion. People are against it because they have been taught that it is a sin. What they don't seem to understand is it has nothing to do with religion. It's about basic civil rights. Many religions don't recognize divorce, but that doesn't stop it from being legal. We don't need some archaic mythology to tell us what's right or wrong, just basic common sense.
Cultural or personal prejudice. Marriage in our society confers rights and responsibilities. If two persons love each other enough to commit to the responsibilities they should have the rights that go along with it.
i am totally against gay marriage. i have no problem with them living together forever and being happy. but to legally marry, NO
Although, if i WAS gay i would want the legal right to marry, so i do understand how gays feel
i think it might be because you getting married with in the bible but its a sin?? i dont get why its such a big deal. We are all human and its not like one of you are a different specie. Why not just have a ceramony to confirm your love for each other.
because it is wrong and if there is gay marriage then guys would be walking in the streets kissing and that is totally disgusting. also kids shouldn't see that stuff.
Frankly, it is just incomprehensible to the vast majority. Right or wrong, it is just incomprehensible. It turns them off and they feel estranged.
because they are saying that it wasn't in the bible and anything that wasn't there is wrong bottom line.. it sucks and people should have a choice but that's society!
Because some people are bigots, overly-religious, or ignorant of this country's laws. Until we as a society evolve, people will always be against gay marriage.
It may be against their religion, or some such. People are easily swayed by something as simple as a book all the time.
I think God put a man and women on this earth... NOt 2 men and not 2 women.
Simple as that
Oh yeah... and its GROSS !
The way they were raised
The way that they were taught
The ways of tradition
cause there generation, when they were kids they were thought to think that only man and woman go together. so this new concept is hard for them to accept
cuz its wrong its says so in the bible
Eh, I don't care, as long as it isn't me or something. People just find it weird, but, whatever.
coz for me it's immoral
bc there gay lol!!!!
Are you a person against gay marriage for non-religious reasons?
As in, you aren't basing your opinion on something the Bible or any other type of religious text says.
If so, why are you against gay marriage?Are you a person against gay marriage for non-religious reasons?
Because it is a misnomer.
If I were standing in a park with a friend and I pointed to a man who was walking on his hands, and I said ';He is walking';
My friend would immediately correct me and say, ';No, he is walking on his hands, there is a difference';. And He would say that because we all understand that walking is done on ones feet.
No matter what, 100 or 1000 years from now. If I were standing in a park with a friend and I pointed to a man and I said ';That man is married!';.
If this is all that my friend knows about this man, my friend will believe this man is married to a woman.
Because that is what what the word marriage means. Like ';walking on your hands'; will will always have to use some sort of qualifying expressions, such as 'gay marriage' or 'same sex marriage'; or 'he is married to another man', if we are going to be able to communicate effectively and accurately.
We will never be able to refer to it simply as marriage, which is of course what the proponents of 'gay marriage' are shooting for.
They of course can never meet the mark because like 'walking' for 'walking on your hands', it is a misnomer.
Hope that helps.Are you a person against gay marriage for non-religious reasons?
Yes, because it isn't natural in nature.
You don't see male lions staying with other male lions for ever in a sort of gay-lion marriage.
Homosexuality is a mental defect, because it doesn't help the individual or the species, like white tigers, it doesn't help them at all, in fact they usually die very early in life.
if most humans were gay, our species would die
And animals may display gay behavior, but it is oonly a fleeting action.
and marriage was defined before the bible, even the jewish bible.
if there were no gay people, our society would be more peaceful because people wouldn't fight over it, the same way if there was only one race, but race is an evolutionary advantage, Homosexuality is not.
Gay people aren't any happier than straight people, so they might as well be straight, at least that would help them.
Twelve reasons gay marriage is wrong:
1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning. Also apparently those homosexual animals have picked up some unnatural behavior.
2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
11) Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.
12) Civil Unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a ';separate but equal'; institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
EDIT@ Love always. Yeah. How about that. They don't make sense....
Uhm, isn't non-religious marriage an oxymoron? That's like non-religious baptism or non-religious salvation...
If it's non-religious, then what's the point of getting 'married'? Marriage was an institution founded by religion. I think queer folks should come up with something else that allows them to get 'hitched' in a manner that shows devotion to each other and allows them to sue the crap outta each other like straight peeps when they divorce.
As for gays in general, I feel pity for them. Gays are either made or born. Those are the only 2 ways. Those that have 'become' gay over time are psychologically gay, usually due to some kind of trauma. Those born gay I feel sorry for like I feel for those with other congenital birth defects. Humans do not reproduce asexually or homosexually. Yet the purpose of our drive for relationships, sex, etc is for procreation. If a gay is born gay, then they have a mutant birth defect, and should be treated with gene therapy as soon as it becomes available...But only if they want it. We don't force adults to get treatment if they want to remain afflicted. But we shouldn't encourage them to revel in their sickness either.
Parents don't encourage their epileptic kids to play flashy video games, so why should they encourage them to butt-hump a member of their own gender. It makes no sense.
Well to start i think it should be allowed because it is a personal thing not a society or government issue.
However a nice non-religious reason to forbid gays to marry would be that we straights have destroyed the sancitity of marriage and basically dragged the entire idea thru so much mud and sh*t that gays should not have to have this crappy, demeaned, dented, undervalued stone placed around their necks.
They should get a whole new word that straights cannot use so they don't f it all up like we have the family, marriage, and common decency.
mark h %26gt; sorry not correct. walking on hands IS walking we just apply the ';on hands'; as a clarification as walking is defined as movement on only 2 limbs as opposed to crawling which is movement on all 4 limbs. Cherry soda may be a descriptor but that does not mean it is not soda...it is an adjective that is not required but done to better explain/describe for the other person. So your point is invalid i think
A little. I don't mind gay people, some of them I like some of them I don't. And no they are not just people because they are very different in the way they act.
I would like to get married and not be in a group with gay people. Marriage seems kind of a beautiful union and is closely related to sex and love. Whilst I am not bothered by gay people having relationships, the physical acts such as kissing or sex repulse me. I believe this is just my cultural upbringing and has no logical base.
When I get married, I do not want my beautiful union associted in any way whatsoever with a guy shafting another guy in the ****. Because that seems gross to me. But that's just me.
As marriage has tarditioanlly not been associated with gay people, allowing gay marriage would be a change that would soil the image of marriage as far as I am concerned.
The bible says ';for a man to lie with a man'; is wrong, but it also says that if a child does not obey their mother and father, he should be punished greatly (or something or other). It also says if a wife is late (or something like that) she should be stoned to death. IMO, it's just another little saying like that. You can't help being gay. You're born like that- it's how your brain works. Even animals have shown homosexual behaviors! I think that people who are so against it are reading into the bible way too seriously. Two gay people getting married is none of their business- if they don't like it, then they don't have to argue about it or talk or think about it!
I'm a gay atheist male.
I have major issues with gay marriage.
Marriage has historically been a sociological, not governmental, function. It has not been 'legal' as it is today. The modern version in the USA mingles religious-sociological aspects with the legal aspects, creating a major problem.
As far as I am concerned, gay rights advocates shot themselves and every other gay person in this country in the foot. By going after 'marriage', they overlooked the severe reaction that would be raised by the religious right. I feel that gay rights advocates were so focused on a WORD that they forgot what was really important -- the RIGHTS.
We should have had civil unions (and thus the RIGHTS) in at least half the states before anyone EVER asked for the WORD.
The word is simply not important.
I believe gay rights advocates should have been pushing for something similiar to what is most common in Europe -- the government only recognizes the contract, and the contract must be officiated in a secular manner by a governmental representative. The marriage aspect, the religious and sociological ritual, is conducted elsewhere in accordance with the married couple's religious and/or sociological beliefs.
So technically -- even though I'm a gay atheist male citizen of the USA -- I don't agree with gay marrage. I don't agree with straight marriage either. I hold that the government should worry about the RIGHTS for ALL couples, gay or straight, via civil unions, and that the couple's religious or social circles should handle the RITUALS for their respective couples.
Anyone who says homosexuality is ';not natural'; may I remind you...
Fact: Black Swans, Gulls, Mallards, and Penguins have all been observed to show homosexual behavior or even couple up and build a nest together.
Fact: Dolphins enjoy group sex, perform non-reproductive sexual acts, and have found to be naturally bisexual, having an opposite sex and same sex partner for life.
Fact: Other mammals, such as apes, elephants, giraffes, lions, and sheep have been observed to have homosexual behavior.
Etc etc etc. Keep looking up this topic, and you'll find that homosexuality is very natural. One is born as a sexual being, and sexuality is a spectrum, not black and white. We biologically enjoy sex and sex can feel good from either an opposite sex or same sex partner. So try a different secular argument against homosexuality... I doubt you'll find one though.
By the way, Child of Vision, the reason homosexuality is an issue is not because ';they are happy that way'; or ';they are rebels';-- they are born that way and they are not treated with the same human rights as anyone else. They don't want to ';take down heterosexuality'; or ';God,'; they simply want to have the same rights as every other human being and be treated with respect. I don't think that's too much to ask.
Honestly isn't the criteria for not liking gay people, that you have to harbor the the Biblical definition of marriage (between man and woman). To a person that doesn't have religious reasons. Marriage is two people that like each other enough to perform a ceremony that gets the government involved in their personal affairs.
Okay, I am against gay marriage, I just don't know why but it isn't right to me and it's kind of nasty but I don't have a problem with gay GUYS,but gay women i'm not really a big fan of them.It's not like our opinion matters though cause it's their life,their choice, and they are going to do it anyway whether we are for it or against it.
Moi. I think gay people should be allowed to have what we consider--a marriage. But I like words to hold their own meanings. To consider marriage--an institution which carries ideas of bearing children, and raising a family--one should like to keep its original meaning, and a new word should describe the more..romantic and emotional relationship between two lovers of the same sex.
What is so wrong with gay marriage. My Leading lady and I have remained unmarried (her idea) because its just a social construct, its just a set of pointless words. At the end of the day, we don't need no stinking bit of paper to tell us we love each other. But if people want to get married so be it. The only difference between gay and straight marriage is the configuration of genitals and can we please grow up?
No. I am for gay marriage for non-religious reasons. Marriage has been re-defined over and over again for thousands of years. (harems, women as property, incestuous royal marriages, bi-racial, divorce, etc.) It won't hurt us to do it again.
Wither it be by religious or none-religious reason it would still be wrong to hate some for who there are. It simply goes against everything I stand for because bigotry is simply hatred because of what an other person is or believes.
tottaly agaist it.
The reason is that, look at how there is two opposite sexes. male and a female. I think God created two sexes so that the two can mate, and build a family.
My religious views are separate from my views on gay marriage and I don't mind if homosexuals get married - it has no impact on me.
well, I personally can't stand the sight of two guys kissings, it's just something about it that makes me cringe.
So I guess that's a non religious reason.
I am not against it period
ESPECIALLY for religious reasons - based on kissing up to invisible sky dad
no i am not against gay marriage. they r humans just like striaght people. they have wants they have needs they have dreams and they make mistakes just like straight people do.
It's unnatural. The next thing we know, there will be another pressure group insisting that they be allowed to marry their pets.
Nope.
I say let them be happy.
We need to spread the love around in this world, stop pinning people against each other. I am sure any god would toast to that.
Are you a person in favor of gay marriage for religious reasons ?
I'm fine with it, I see no reason in why two men or women can't be together if they love each other. Some say it's unnatural, but thats because they were raised to believing that !
over population dictates we as the people of the world should be for gay marriage .
no what i think is who gives a crap if people are homo sexual i mean its their there lives not ours why do people care
no, gays and lesbians should b left ALONE!! who cares anyway!! let them get married if they really love each other! LET THE WORLD B HAPPY!! :))
if i say im not against gay marriage will they stop having marches and holding up traffic?
What reason could that possibly be that doesnt involve bigoty of some sort
Its unnatural.
Next donkeys will be mating with chickens.
But hey, the world is warped in so many ways....who really cares?
I take issues with them galavanting around as if they have special privileges over the rest of society.
You dont see married couples dressing in leather and putting straps on their kids and parading around promoting family and children do you?
They are just REBELS. If they were indeed happy with their chosen sexuality they would not be making an issue about it.
They would just go to work, go home, have sex, and carry on like the rest of society.
But it's more, it's about taking DOWN society, at least heterosexuality or God or whatever, so in that respect I don't feel these people have any good intentions for anyone else other than themselves.
And the one good thing is that yes, at least they can't propogate and it's time the world downsized some anyhow.
Sorry. Get used to it. It will be like this till the end of TIME.
Live with it or accept what you'll have to live with it.
As I said what do I give a rat's behind?? NO pun intended...
Highschool Confidential anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJHtzdvf…
It makes me cream my jeans when she comes my way....and here I thought it was just incontinence.
One compelling non-religious issue is that male homosexual conduct is a public health catastrophe.
There are also plenty of good religous reasons — http://www.jimfeeney.org/againstgaymarri…
If so, why are you against gay marriage?Are you a person against gay marriage for non-religious reasons?
Because it is a misnomer.
If I were standing in a park with a friend and I pointed to a man who was walking on his hands, and I said ';He is walking';
My friend would immediately correct me and say, ';No, he is walking on his hands, there is a difference';. And He would say that because we all understand that walking is done on ones feet.
No matter what, 100 or 1000 years from now. If I were standing in a park with a friend and I pointed to a man and I said ';That man is married!';.
If this is all that my friend knows about this man, my friend will believe this man is married to a woman.
Because that is what what the word marriage means. Like ';walking on your hands'; will will always have to use some sort of qualifying expressions, such as 'gay marriage' or 'same sex marriage'; or 'he is married to another man', if we are going to be able to communicate effectively and accurately.
We will never be able to refer to it simply as marriage, which is of course what the proponents of 'gay marriage' are shooting for.
They of course can never meet the mark because like 'walking' for 'walking on your hands', it is a misnomer.
Hope that helps.Are you a person against gay marriage for non-religious reasons?
Yes, because it isn't natural in nature.
You don't see male lions staying with other male lions for ever in a sort of gay-lion marriage.
Homosexuality is a mental defect, because it doesn't help the individual or the species, like white tigers, it doesn't help them at all, in fact they usually die very early in life.
if most humans were gay, our species would die
And animals may display gay behavior, but it is oonly a fleeting action.
and marriage was defined before the bible, even the jewish bible.
if there were no gay people, our society would be more peaceful because people wouldn't fight over it, the same way if there was only one race, but race is an evolutionary advantage, Homosexuality is not.
Gay people aren't any happier than straight people, so they might as well be straight, at least that would help them.
Twelve reasons gay marriage is wrong:
1) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning. Also apparently those homosexual animals have picked up some unnatural behavior.
2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
5) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.
6) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.
7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
9) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
11) Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.
12) Civil Unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a ';separate but equal'; institution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages for gays and lesbians will.
EDIT@ Love always. Yeah. How about that. They don't make sense....
Uhm, isn't non-religious marriage an oxymoron? That's like non-religious baptism or non-religious salvation...
If it's non-religious, then what's the point of getting 'married'? Marriage was an institution founded by religion. I think queer folks should come up with something else that allows them to get 'hitched' in a manner that shows devotion to each other and allows them to sue the crap outta each other like straight peeps when they divorce.
As for gays in general, I feel pity for them. Gays are either made or born. Those are the only 2 ways. Those that have 'become' gay over time are psychologically gay, usually due to some kind of trauma. Those born gay I feel sorry for like I feel for those with other congenital birth defects. Humans do not reproduce asexually or homosexually. Yet the purpose of our drive for relationships, sex, etc is for procreation. If a gay is born gay, then they have a mutant birth defect, and should be treated with gene therapy as soon as it becomes available...But only if they want it. We don't force adults to get treatment if they want to remain afflicted. But we shouldn't encourage them to revel in their sickness either.
Parents don't encourage their epileptic kids to play flashy video games, so why should they encourage them to butt-hump a member of their own gender. It makes no sense.
Well to start i think it should be allowed because it is a personal thing not a society or government issue.
However a nice non-religious reason to forbid gays to marry would be that we straights have destroyed the sancitity of marriage and basically dragged the entire idea thru so much mud and sh*t that gays should not have to have this crappy, demeaned, dented, undervalued stone placed around their necks.
They should get a whole new word that straights cannot use so they don't f it all up like we have the family, marriage, and common decency.
mark h %26gt; sorry not correct. walking on hands IS walking we just apply the ';on hands'; as a clarification as walking is defined as movement on only 2 limbs as opposed to crawling which is movement on all 4 limbs. Cherry soda may be a descriptor but that does not mean it is not soda...it is an adjective that is not required but done to better explain/describe for the other person. So your point is invalid i think
A little. I don't mind gay people, some of them I like some of them I don't. And no they are not just people because they are very different in the way they act.
I would like to get married and not be in a group with gay people. Marriage seems kind of a beautiful union and is closely related to sex and love. Whilst I am not bothered by gay people having relationships, the physical acts such as kissing or sex repulse me. I believe this is just my cultural upbringing and has no logical base.
When I get married, I do not want my beautiful union associted in any way whatsoever with a guy shafting another guy in the ****. Because that seems gross to me. But that's just me.
As marriage has tarditioanlly not been associated with gay people, allowing gay marriage would be a change that would soil the image of marriage as far as I am concerned.
The bible says ';for a man to lie with a man'; is wrong, but it also says that if a child does not obey their mother and father, he should be punished greatly (or something or other). It also says if a wife is late (or something like that) she should be stoned to death. IMO, it's just another little saying like that. You can't help being gay. You're born like that- it's how your brain works. Even animals have shown homosexual behaviors! I think that people who are so against it are reading into the bible way too seriously. Two gay people getting married is none of their business- if they don't like it, then they don't have to argue about it or talk or think about it!
I'm a gay atheist male.
I have major issues with gay marriage.
Marriage has historically been a sociological, not governmental, function. It has not been 'legal' as it is today. The modern version in the USA mingles religious-sociological aspects with the legal aspects, creating a major problem.
As far as I am concerned, gay rights advocates shot themselves and every other gay person in this country in the foot. By going after 'marriage', they overlooked the severe reaction that would be raised by the religious right. I feel that gay rights advocates were so focused on a WORD that they forgot what was really important -- the RIGHTS.
We should have had civil unions (and thus the RIGHTS) in at least half the states before anyone EVER asked for the WORD.
The word is simply not important.
I believe gay rights advocates should have been pushing for something similiar to what is most common in Europe -- the government only recognizes the contract, and the contract must be officiated in a secular manner by a governmental representative. The marriage aspect, the religious and sociological ritual, is conducted elsewhere in accordance with the married couple's religious and/or sociological beliefs.
So technically -- even though I'm a gay atheist male citizen of the USA -- I don't agree with gay marrage. I don't agree with straight marriage either. I hold that the government should worry about the RIGHTS for ALL couples, gay or straight, via civil unions, and that the couple's religious or social circles should handle the RITUALS for their respective couples.
Anyone who says homosexuality is ';not natural'; may I remind you...
Fact: Black Swans, Gulls, Mallards, and Penguins have all been observed to show homosexual behavior or even couple up and build a nest together.
Fact: Dolphins enjoy group sex, perform non-reproductive sexual acts, and have found to be naturally bisexual, having an opposite sex and same sex partner for life.
Fact: Other mammals, such as apes, elephants, giraffes, lions, and sheep have been observed to have homosexual behavior.
Etc etc etc. Keep looking up this topic, and you'll find that homosexuality is very natural. One is born as a sexual being, and sexuality is a spectrum, not black and white. We biologically enjoy sex and sex can feel good from either an opposite sex or same sex partner. So try a different secular argument against homosexuality... I doubt you'll find one though.
By the way, Child of Vision, the reason homosexuality is an issue is not because ';they are happy that way'; or ';they are rebels';-- they are born that way and they are not treated with the same human rights as anyone else. They don't want to ';take down heterosexuality'; or ';God,'; they simply want to have the same rights as every other human being and be treated with respect. I don't think that's too much to ask.
Honestly isn't the criteria for not liking gay people, that you have to harbor the the Biblical definition of marriage (between man and woman). To a person that doesn't have religious reasons. Marriage is two people that like each other enough to perform a ceremony that gets the government involved in their personal affairs.
Okay, I am against gay marriage, I just don't know why but it isn't right to me and it's kind of nasty but I don't have a problem with gay GUYS,but gay women i'm not really a big fan of them.It's not like our opinion matters though cause it's their life,their choice, and they are going to do it anyway whether we are for it or against it.
Moi. I think gay people should be allowed to have what we consider--a marriage. But I like words to hold their own meanings. To consider marriage--an institution which carries ideas of bearing children, and raising a family--one should like to keep its original meaning, and a new word should describe the more..romantic and emotional relationship between two lovers of the same sex.
What is so wrong with gay marriage. My Leading lady and I have remained unmarried (her idea) because its just a social construct, its just a set of pointless words. At the end of the day, we don't need no stinking bit of paper to tell us we love each other. But if people want to get married so be it. The only difference between gay and straight marriage is the configuration of genitals and can we please grow up?
No. I am for gay marriage for non-religious reasons. Marriage has been re-defined over and over again for thousands of years. (harems, women as property, incestuous royal marriages, bi-racial, divorce, etc.) It won't hurt us to do it again.
Wither it be by religious or none-religious reason it would still be wrong to hate some for who there are. It simply goes against everything I stand for because bigotry is simply hatred because of what an other person is or believes.
tottaly agaist it.
The reason is that, look at how there is two opposite sexes. male and a female. I think God created two sexes so that the two can mate, and build a family.
My religious views are separate from my views on gay marriage and I don't mind if homosexuals get married - it has no impact on me.
well, I personally can't stand the sight of two guys kissings, it's just something about it that makes me cringe.
So I guess that's a non religious reason.
I am not against it period
ESPECIALLY for religious reasons - based on kissing up to invisible sky dad
no i am not against gay marriage. they r humans just like striaght people. they have wants they have needs they have dreams and they make mistakes just like straight people do.
It's unnatural. The next thing we know, there will be another pressure group insisting that they be allowed to marry their pets.
Nope.
I say let them be happy.
We need to spread the love around in this world, stop pinning people against each other. I am sure any god would toast to that.
Are you a person in favor of gay marriage for religious reasons ?
I'm fine with it, I see no reason in why two men or women can't be together if they love each other. Some say it's unnatural, but thats because they were raised to believing that !
over population dictates we as the people of the world should be for gay marriage .
no what i think is who gives a crap if people are homo sexual i mean its their there lives not ours why do people care
no, gays and lesbians should b left ALONE!! who cares anyway!! let them get married if they really love each other! LET THE WORLD B HAPPY!! :))
if i say im not against gay marriage will they stop having marches and holding up traffic?
What reason could that possibly be that doesnt involve bigoty of some sort
Its unnatural.
Next donkeys will be mating with chickens.
But hey, the world is warped in so many ways....who really cares?
I take issues with them galavanting around as if they have special privileges over the rest of society.
You dont see married couples dressing in leather and putting straps on their kids and parading around promoting family and children do you?
They are just REBELS. If they were indeed happy with their chosen sexuality they would not be making an issue about it.
They would just go to work, go home, have sex, and carry on like the rest of society.
But it's more, it's about taking DOWN society, at least heterosexuality or God or whatever, so in that respect I don't feel these people have any good intentions for anyone else other than themselves.
And the one good thing is that yes, at least they can't propogate and it's time the world downsized some anyhow.
Sorry. Get used to it. It will be like this till the end of TIME.
Live with it or accept what you'll have to live with it.
As I said what do I give a rat's behind?? NO pun intended...
Highschool Confidential anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsJHtzdvf…
It makes me cream my jeans when she comes my way....and here I thought it was just incontinence.
One compelling non-religious issue is that male homosexual conduct is a public health catastrophe.
There are also plenty of good religous reasons — http://www.jimfeeney.org/againstgaymarri…
What was the supreme court ruling of the vote on Constitutionaly legalizing homosexual marriage?
What is your view on this subject?What was the supreme court ruling of the vote on Constitutionaly legalizing homosexual marriage?
I believe they did not go one way or the other, but left it as a state's rights issue, not a federal issueWhat was the supreme court ruling of the vote on Constitutionaly legalizing homosexual marriage?
They were voting on an amendment to make gay marriage illegal, not legal. I do not think it will be an amendment.
There are two SC decisions dealing with homosexuality. Bowers v. Hardwick and Lawrence v. Texas, though neither deals specifically with gay marriage. I agree with the first.
I believe they did not go one way or the other, but left it as a state's rights issue, not a federal issueWhat was the supreme court ruling of the vote on Constitutionaly legalizing homosexual marriage?
They were voting on an amendment to make gay marriage illegal, not legal. I do not think it will be an amendment.
There are two SC decisions dealing with homosexuality. Bowers v. Hardwick and Lawrence v. Texas, though neither deals specifically with gay marriage. I agree with the first.
Sweden residence permit for Islamic religious marriage partner; is it feasible?
I am an Indonesian and will marry a Canadian through a religious marriage. My fiance is working in Sweden and has Sweden residence sponsored by the company. He said that the company can sponsor me to get the residence permit as well, although our marriage is not a registered civilian marriage (have only Mosque marriage certificate). Can it technically be done?Sweden residence permit for Islamic religious marriage partner; is it feasible?
Where did you marry, and why is it not legally registered in the country in which you married? Without a legally registered, valid marriage, there is no way to get such a person a visa as a ';spouse.';purple makeup
Where did you marry, and why is it not legally registered in the country in which you married? Without a legally registered, valid marriage, there is no way to get such a person a visa as a ';spouse.';
How does sexual rejection in your marriage affect you in your everyday life?
It makes you walk around with your fists clenched. You have an undercurrent of anger at not being able to get what your soul craves (intimacy and affection, not just sex). I can't tell you how many divorced people I've talked to where lack of intimacy was the straw that broke the camel's back. It's the long road of not knowing when, if ever, you'll get the emotional and physical caring. The unknown stretches out in front of you and you just go SNAP.
The people that are doing all the denying of sex ... you know I've found they actually don't know what's going on. Either their partner can't tell them or else they do get told and they can't face it. I think a lot of marriages would be saved if the person found out how dire things are sooner rather than later.How does sexual rejection in your marriage affect you in your everyday life?
You use battery operated toys more than you should, you feel like crap about yourself, you start to look at all the hot guys at work and think about an affair. I came close.
Instead I told my husband that if he didnt get off the computer and away from the television that he spent all his free time with - that he had to move out by Friday. I talked to him about it for YEARS. He agreed and we are now back to having more hugs and time together and we are planning some weekends away too.
If he refuse to change I will be separated by now - but then I could have my needs met. Marriage inst all about sex - it is the emotional rejection that goes along with it that ruins a marriage.
How does sexual rejection in your marriage affect you in your everyday life?
It effects your self esteem causing problems in that area.
It could make you angry, bitter and caustic towards other and in particular members of the opposite sex. You would also be tense and maybe your attention span would be shorter when trying to do tasks in the work place. IT really does totally affect your entire view point on almost everything. I wish more people understood this better.
Well before my husband got his surgery there was a time that I was rejected...I know its so hard to believe lol...anywho I let him skate but when It was the 3rd rejection I was so pissed that I cut him off for about 6 months. Now that was rough even my friends were like please get laid, please your scaring the men away. lol. Now lack of sex leads to less pheromones, less adrenaline so pretty much leads to depression. Moral of the story...lack of sex can lead to divorce.
As human beings with feelings it is very tough to have any rejection. When you have rejection at home of any kind it definatly has an effect on your self esteem, and self assurance, you count on feeling safe and assured at home, It will effect how you face the outside world.
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J.J.,
Rejection can lead to low self esteem. If you have rejection, then you need to get yourself and your other half into counseling. Sex is not everything. When people get older, other things become more important.
It has become the normal in my 12 year marriage!
I get turned down every night and every now and then in the morning or daytime too!
If I acted differently when I was rejected that would become my new ';normal';!
it makes you have no self asteem, if your spouse doesnt want to have sex with you, then who will? it can also make you desperate for any kind of attention from the opposite sex, which leads to cheating
I think first it is low self esteem and then after so long then you become numb to it. I think then you look for other ways to recieve pleasure from lack there of.
More stress... It just builds and builds and there is nowhere for it to go... my exercise equipment has had all it can take, it also makes me feel a bit useless
When I reject the wife, it makes her want to please me more in other ways, like a special dinner and her being nicer.
It's a win-win!
It sucks, the job, everything else sucks. Feel like you are worthless and wonder what is wrong. I hate it.
For me, it makes me feel unwanted and worthless....
Of course, now things are getting interesting at home... He has given up a few things and I'm seeing more marital fun because of it! LOL
I'm usually grumpy the next day. I dredge up old thoughts that should be left alone. Fortunately it is pretty rare.
Makes me frustrated and irritable. Also makes me want to look else where
Hurt.
In men, hurt = anger.
oh, you take care of your husband/wife...why deny when you can fly!
It causes me to spend waaaaaay to much time on Y!A
The people that are doing all the denying of sex ... you know I've found they actually don't know what's going on. Either their partner can't tell them or else they do get told and they can't face it. I think a lot of marriages would be saved if the person found out how dire things are sooner rather than later.How does sexual rejection in your marriage affect you in your everyday life?
You use battery operated toys more than you should, you feel like crap about yourself, you start to look at all the hot guys at work and think about an affair. I came close.
Instead I told my husband that if he didnt get off the computer and away from the television that he spent all his free time with - that he had to move out by Friday. I talked to him about it for YEARS. He agreed and we are now back to having more hugs and time together and we are planning some weekends away too.
If he refuse to change I will be separated by now - but then I could have my needs met. Marriage inst all about sex - it is the emotional rejection that goes along with it that ruins a marriage.
How does sexual rejection in your marriage affect you in your everyday life?
It effects your self esteem causing problems in that area.
It could make you angry, bitter and caustic towards other and in particular members of the opposite sex. You would also be tense and maybe your attention span would be shorter when trying to do tasks in the work place. IT really does totally affect your entire view point on almost everything. I wish more people understood this better.
Well before my husband got his surgery there was a time that I was rejected...I know its so hard to believe lol...anywho I let him skate but when It was the 3rd rejection I was so pissed that I cut him off for about 6 months. Now that was rough even my friends were like please get laid, please your scaring the men away. lol. Now lack of sex leads to less pheromones, less adrenaline so pretty much leads to depression. Moral of the story...lack of sex can lead to divorce.
As human beings with feelings it is very tough to have any rejection. When you have rejection at home of any kind it definatly has an effect on your self esteem, and self assurance, you count on feeling safe and assured at home, It will effect how you face the outside world.
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J.J.,
Rejection can lead to low self esteem. If you have rejection, then you need to get yourself and your other half into counseling. Sex is not everything. When people get older, other things become more important.
It has become the normal in my 12 year marriage!
I get turned down every night and every now and then in the morning or daytime too!
If I acted differently when I was rejected that would become my new ';normal';!
it makes you have no self asteem, if your spouse doesnt want to have sex with you, then who will? it can also make you desperate for any kind of attention from the opposite sex, which leads to cheating
I think first it is low self esteem and then after so long then you become numb to it. I think then you look for other ways to recieve pleasure from lack there of.
More stress... It just builds and builds and there is nowhere for it to go... my exercise equipment has had all it can take, it also makes me feel a bit useless
When I reject the wife, it makes her want to please me more in other ways, like a special dinner and her being nicer.
It's a win-win!
It sucks, the job, everything else sucks. Feel like you are worthless and wonder what is wrong. I hate it.
For me, it makes me feel unwanted and worthless....
Of course, now things are getting interesting at home... He has given up a few things and I'm seeing more marital fun because of it! LOL
I'm usually grumpy the next day. I dredge up old thoughts that should be left alone. Fortunately it is pretty rare.
Makes me frustrated and irritable. Also makes me want to look else where
Hurt.
In men, hurt = anger.
oh, you take care of your husband/wife...why deny when you can fly!
It causes me to spend waaaaaay to much time on Y!A
Marriage: How seriously do you take the answers in this forum?
I'm just saying that it seems like some posters have ';get a divorce'; in paste stand-by.Marriage: How seriously do you take the answers in this forum?
Pretty much all of yahoo answers is a rant and rave board. So taking into context that most of the posts are ranting or raving from frustrated posters, I take it all with a heaping spoon of salt.Marriage: How seriously do you take the answers in this forum?
I like to know what people think... yes much of the people here are teens or preteens that answer nonsense but I have found mature people and real honest answers, it is not that I will follow the suggestions but sometimes you can get another point of view that you have not consider before, just try to have common sense.
There are two answers in the paste mode - ';Go to counseling'; and ';Get a divorce';
I like to hear other people's opinions and points of view. Sometimes someone comes up with something I hadn't thought of. Of course, that's after weeding through all the trolls and idiots.
Well, most of the people here don't have an IQ over 76, so what do you expect.
Also, you should definitely get a divorce.
I wouldn't take any advice from here but ideas and suggestions are nice sometimes-this is for entertainment purposes isn't it? There are a lot of very nice folks on here but some don't have a clue about life. and some are just children
yeah they do--------then everyone wonders why the divorce rate is so high. its the simple answer for too many things. they're either tormented, unhappy women, unmarried women or boys being flippant.
Ha, I have asked a few and got a few good answers, but mostly it seems to be kids who have no clue. I do find it to be somewhat amusing.......and you should get a divorce!
when I ak a question, I don't get many answers so I read the ones I do get and agree with the one who is on my same mind set.
Pretty much all of yahoo answers is a rant and rave board. So taking into context that most of the posts are ranting or raving from frustrated posters, I take it all with a heaping spoon of salt.Marriage: How seriously do you take the answers in this forum?
I like to know what people think... yes much of the people here are teens or preteens that answer nonsense but I have found mature people and real honest answers, it is not that I will follow the suggestions but sometimes you can get another point of view that you have not consider before, just try to have common sense.
There are two answers in the paste mode - ';Go to counseling'; and ';Get a divorce';
I like to hear other people's opinions and points of view. Sometimes someone comes up with something I hadn't thought of. Of course, that's after weeding through all the trolls and idiots.
Well, most of the people here don't have an IQ over 76, so what do you expect.
Also, you should definitely get a divorce.
I wouldn't take any advice from here but ideas and suggestions are nice sometimes-this is for entertainment purposes isn't it? There are a lot of very nice folks on here but some don't have a clue about life. and some are just children
yeah they do--------then everyone wonders why the divorce rate is so high. its the simple answer for too many things. they're either tormented, unhappy women, unmarried women or boys being flippant.
Ha, I have asked a few and got a few good answers, but mostly it seems to be kids who have no clue. I do find it to be somewhat amusing.......and you should get a divorce!
when I ak a question, I don't get many answers so I read the ones I do get and agree with the one who is on my same mind set.
How do you feel about gay marriage?
i think its a natural feeling even though im straight i support the gays..just dont turn me into one haha..but seriously what do you think? has our society evolved enough to let a new chapter in life to begin?How do you feel about gay marriage?
I'm personally fine with it. Gay marriage doesn't affect straight marriages. Otherwise, the marriages that happened in CA prior to prop 8, %26amp; the marriages in MA %26amp; CT would have straight couples suffering, right?
Hasn't happened. Marriage isn't for everybody, that's true. But 2 grown, consenting adults who aren't blood related who want to have all the benefits of marriage should be able to do so. That's the reason I'm married.How do you feel about gay marriage?
You can't turn gay. And gay people should be able to adopt kids. I mean what is so wrong with it? If you think we're gonna molest them or something then people are insane. Straight parents rape their kids all of the time. And single parents do just fine with only 1 sex raising the kids so 2 of one sex is even better. And people in foster care would like to get out of foster care and into loving homes. Yea sorry I pretty much just answered the 2nd person's coment.
Don't care for it, don't support it. And don't tell me that if it doesn't affect my life I should support it. Lots of things I don't agree with doesn't affect my life. People that get pissed off about this just are not thinking. They would never support something they don't agree with, so why get mad at me for doing the same thing?
I don't think religious people will ever let ';Gay Marriage'; be. Civil Union, probably. But marriage is seen as a religious thing, man and woman. As long as we get the same rights as married straight couples, I don't care what it's called. But I'd like to have a service to go along with it, not just sign papers.
A dude wants to marry a dude, who am I to stop them? It doesn't effect me one bit. If it makes someone happy great. You can marry a chair for all I care. How is love and commitment ever wrong? Besides being against it isn't going to stop people from being gay, being in gay relationships, having gay sex, etc. So why let the marriage thing bother you? Let people live their lives.
it does not go with the bible and gods rule, if you have questions about the ';catholic thing'; and need proof, they found Noah's ark just where the bible says it is, next to mt sinai,
scary huh
i totally support it. and i think its idiotic for people to say its okay for them to marry, but not to adopt.
i totally agree with gay marriage, i mean, you fall in love with personality, not genitals!!!!!!!!
';..just dont turn me into one ';
You can't turn gay, you're either gay or you're not.
I support it :) Why not if people are in love, male and female male and male female and female as long as they're in love
Well I am gay and I want to be married one day and have adopted children so I clearly support it
completely support it
I never understood why ANYONE would want to get married
I'm personally fine with it. Gay marriage doesn't affect straight marriages. Otherwise, the marriages that happened in CA prior to prop 8, %26amp; the marriages in MA %26amp; CT would have straight couples suffering, right?
Hasn't happened. Marriage isn't for everybody, that's true. But 2 grown, consenting adults who aren't blood related who want to have all the benefits of marriage should be able to do so. That's the reason I'm married.How do you feel about gay marriage?
You can't turn gay. And gay people should be able to adopt kids. I mean what is so wrong with it? If you think we're gonna molest them or something then people are insane. Straight parents rape their kids all of the time. And single parents do just fine with only 1 sex raising the kids so 2 of one sex is even better. And people in foster care would like to get out of foster care and into loving homes. Yea sorry I pretty much just answered the 2nd person's coment.
Don't care for it, don't support it. And don't tell me that if it doesn't affect my life I should support it. Lots of things I don't agree with doesn't affect my life. People that get pissed off about this just are not thinking. They would never support something they don't agree with, so why get mad at me for doing the same thing?
I don't think religious people will ever let ';Gay Marriage'; be. Civil Union, probably. But marriage is seen as a religious thing, man and woman. As long as we get the same rights as married straight couples, I don't care what it's called. But I'd like to have a service to go along with it, not just sign papers.
A dude wants to marry a dude, who am I to stop them? It doesn't effect me one bit. If it makes someone happy great. You can marry a chair for all I care. How is love and commitment ever wrong? Besides being against it isn't going to stop people from being gay, being in gay relationships, having gay sex, etc. So why let the marriage thing bother you? Let people live their lives.
it does not go with the bible and gods rule, if you have questions about the ';catholic thing'; and need proof, they found Noah's ark just where the bible says it is, next to mt sinai,
scary huh
i totally support it. and i think its idiotic for people to say its okay for them to marry, but not to adopt.
i totally agree with gay marriage, i mean, you fall in love with personality, not genitals!!!!!!!!
';..just dont turn me into one ';
You can't turn gay, you're either gay or you're not.
I support it :) Why not if people are in love, male and female male and male female and female as long as they're in love
Well I am gay and I want to be married one day and have adopted children so I clearly support it
completely support it
I never understood why ANYONE would want to get married
When is the right time for marriage and children?
Im 20 and he is 21. We started dating in high school and have been together for 5 1/2 years so far. Currently we both are in college and have about 1 to 2 year left. We talk about being married and our future family so its nothing new. My question in when would be about the right time to get married? When should we then try for children? Any suggestions?When is the right time for marriage and children?
The right time is when you are financially stable enough and mature enough to except the responsibilities that go along with it. I would wait until you've both graduated from college to get married, and children any time after that (assuming you have the funds).When is the right time for marriage and children?
After 3 failed marriages! 30 is the perfect age for marriage, live together first at least 3 ,years Then marry 2 ,more years children this is from experience !!! P.S in this Disposable world Marriage is no longer practical. only the children suffer!!!!!
I got married when i was 18 and have been married for 5 years!! IF YOU LOVE EACH OTHER go for it you can still go to college being married and having children you dont need to finish school first..you should get married !!! life is so much more meaningful when you have a husband and children its the best feeling in the world!!! GOOD LUCK AND CONGRATULATIONS XOXOXO
I think you should get married when you finish college. You've been together for quite a while, which is a good sign. Kids should come when you've been married and remember if you do have kids try to plan to stay home with them their first years, it makes a big difference in their lives.:)
You could get engaged anytime and then get married after you both graduate. As far as kids go, I would decide where you are going to live, work, etc. before you have kids. Maybe save some money and go on some fun trips. You are young, enjoy some time together as a married couple and then have kids.
You both have so much time and you are so young. I would wait until you both are finished college (at least) until you get married. Then it would be best to be married at least 2 years before children. You want to build a good strong marriage before bringing other people into it. Don't rush it enjoy your journey now. :-)
I think that is up to the both of you. There is no right time, if the two of you love each other get married and than decide when you want to have kids, you are both young and if you waited to have kids for a few years there is nothing wrong with that. Live your life it is too short. Good luck
If you are asking these questions I think you are not ready for either. Education comes first so when you do marry you can support yourselves as well as children.
well finish college and find a job just make sure that you and him are stable financially and you are ready :) best wishes to you
The right time is when you are financially stable enough and mature enough to except the responsibilities that go along with it. I would wait until you've both graduated from college to get married, and children any time after that (assuming you have the funds).When is the right time for marriage and children?
After 3 failed marriages! 30 is the perfect age for marriage, live together first at least 3 ,years Then marry 2 ,more years children this is from experience !!! P.S in this Disposable world Marriage is no longer practical. only the children suffer!!!!!
I got married when i was 18 and have been married for 5 years!! IF YOU LOVE EACH OTHER go for it you can still go to college being married and having children you dont need to finish school first..you should get married !!! life is so much more meaningful when you have a husband and children its the best feeling in the world!!! GOOD LUCK AND CONGRATULATIONS XOXOXO
I think you should get married when you finish college. You've been together for quite a while, which is a good sign. Kids should come when you've been married and remember if you do have kids try to plan to stay home with them their first years, it makes a big difference in their lives.:)
You could get engaged anytime and then get married after you both graduate. As far as kids go, I would decide where you are going to live, work, etc. before you have kids. Maybe save some money and go on some fun trips. You are young, enjoy some time together as a married couple and then have kids.
You both have so much time and you are so young. I would wait until you both are finished college (at least) until you get married. Then it would be best to be married at least 2 years before children. You want to build a good strong marriage before bringing other people into it. Don't rush it enjoy your journey now. :-)
I think that is up to the both of you. There is no right time, if the two of you love each other get married and than decide when you want to have kids, you are both young and if you waited to have kids for a few years there is nothing wrong with that. Live your life it is too short. Good luck
If you are asking these questions I think you are not ready for either. Education comes first so when you do marry you can support yourselves as well as children.
well finish college and find a job just make sure that you and him are stable financially and you are ready :) best wishes to you
Why can atheists not understand gay marriage is impossible?
It defy the meaning of the word!Why can atheists not understand gay marriage is impossible?
Why can you not understand it is FACT and happens in many countries around the world!!
Why do you seem unable to understand a simple definition like -
BIGOT – One who is intolerant, especially regarding, religion, politics, sex or race.Why can atheists not understand gay marriage is impossible?
Most modern women would have nothing to do with marriage if it meant today what it meant a couple hundred years ago. In medevil times marriages were arranged by the parents and the two parties involved had no say over the matter, especially not the girl. Most girls were married when they were about 12-14 years old. When the marriage occured the father of the bride 'gave away' the girl. This was because children were considered property of their father. Marriage was about transfering the property rights from the father to the husband. It was not the romantic affair people think about now. It was simply a transfer of livestock, the same way a cow or goat was traded. A woman had no rights and simply had to do everything her husband told her. Remember the marriage vows were to, ';Love, Honor, and **OBEY**!'; A woman could be brutally punished for refusing to obey her husband. The term 'rule of thumb' originally refered to church law that said it was okay for a man to beat his wife with a branch so long as it was no thicker than his own thumb (sympathy for the women who were given to men with large hands). I could go on for several pages here, but I expect you should understand my point by now.
How is it impossible?
Gays can be married and words change over time.
For example, Gay didn't mean homosexual 60 years ago.
Also, why do you care if gays get married? Will 2 gay people getting married 1000 miles away impact your life at all? Will it endanger your marriage? Why is it your business what 2 consenting adults do?
Also, most atheists are opposed to all forms of bigotry, not just the gay marriage issue.
Who writes the dictionaries? We do, and we change the meanings of words all the time.
Gay used to mean happy. Think back to the Flintstones theme song, ';We'll have a gay old time!'; They weren't talking about homosexuality were they? Words change meaning to fit the times.
So will the word ';marriage';
whats wrong with gays marring each other would you deny a person his happiness in this cruel *** ed world if they love each other? so what ? I know some gays,, they are not that bad,, if fact most of them are pretty nice people,, great dressers and stylists, and smart too ,.they should be able to lead a normal life with out people harassing them ,,,you know like the romans did the Christan's? now the Christan's are feeding the gays to the lions,, they are hypocrites and the bad thing about them is that they try to force their beliefs on others who are not bothering them I hate the WORD and the Christan's,, the romans should have feed them all to the lions
Are you calling atheists gay....Don't you mean why can't fundies understand gay marriage is impossible, you would get many more answers, straight to your hate filled heart.
Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_di…
Perhaps not all do, but due to its religious linkage, and to the authority of the Bible, and the general anarchist spirit of atheism and its lack of an objective transcendent moral authority, then they are in league with homosexuals. The former reject the Bible, while the latter controvert Biblical teaching, and reject its Divine inspiration. But their polemics are fallacious. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Hom…
You are mistaken.
The meaning of the word confers certain legal rights which some people would deny others because they have a different sexual orientation. Legal rights such as adoption status, income tax filing status, health care coverage status, inheritance status, etc.
Marriage is not determined solely by religion anymore. It is now legal in several states. Love or hate it, it is here to stay. It only defies the meaning of the word as defined by you.
Btw: I'm a married, straight, non-atheist.
its funny you address this to atheists.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_di…
it would seem to me that the religious are destroying the ';sanctity'; of marriage with their higher divorce rates :D
LOL?
Marriage is a secular legal contract between two consenting adults and the State.
The sexes of the parties involved is not relevant, and so same-sex marriage is no less ';possible'; than mixed-sex marriage.
They say the meaning of gay and marriage can change but if you change the definition of atheist as to be a religion then that is impossible and un true.
It's not impossible, it's possible in like 6 states now... And possibly D.C. soon.
Because nobody is not let black people get married ... so yeah, it's called rights, and everybody has them.
Not really, some couples (man/Woman) get married, but can't have children, but they are still married........
If you are implying that you need to be able to produce babies to be called a proper marriage........
Well considering it has happened already it's not impossible unless the definition of the word has changed since I last checked.
As long as we are unable to redefine words i guess that makes happy marriage impossible.
i am sure that the way you use the word gay did not exist oh 50 years or so ago.
I feel sorry for Jayden...
Poor child.
Why can't Jayden's mommy understand that it's none of her business who gets married and who doesn't?
If it's impossible, why are fundamentalists opposed to it?
Proverbs 14, 19
Lust indulged starves the soul, but fools hate to turn from evil.
Really? Then how the hell have the South Africans managed to legalize it?
Gay people get married all the time. Looks possible to me.
Wow how many times did your kids drop you on your head?
no kidding! Most married people are far from gay!
why do you care what other people do?
I wonder why atheists can't understand that gay marriage is stupid.
They aren't very bright.purple makeup
Why can you not understand it is FACT and happens in many countries around the world!!
Why do you seem unable to understand a simple definition like -
BIGOT – One who is intolerant, especially regarding, religion, politics, sex or race.Why can atheists not understand gay marriage is impossible?
Most modern women would have nothing to do with marriage if it meant today what it meant a couple hundred years ago. In medevil times marriages were arranged by the parents and the two parties involved had no say over the matter, especially not the girl. Most girls were married when they were about 12-14 years old. When the marriage occured the father of the bride 'gave away' the girl. This was because children were considered property of their father. Marriage was about transfering the property rights from the father to the husband. It was not the romantic affair people think about now. It was simply a transfer of livestock, the same way a cow or goat was traded. A woman had no rights and simply had to do everything her husband told her. Remember the marriage vows were to, ';Love, Honor, and **OBEY**!'; A woman could be brutally punished for refusing to obey her husband. The term 'rule of thumb' originally refered to church law that said it was okay for a man to beat his wife with a branch so long as it was no thicker than his own thumb (sympathy for the women who were given to men with large hands). I could go on for several pages here, but I expect you should understand my point by now.
How is it impossible?
Gays can be married and words change over time.
For example, Gay didn't mean homosexual 60 years ago.
Also, why do you care if gays get married? Will 2 gay people getting married 1000 miles away impact your life at all? Will it endanger your marriage? Why is it your business what 2 consenting adults do?
Also, most atheists are opposed to all forms of bigotry, not just the gay marriage issue.
Who writes the dictionaries? We do, and we change the meanings of words all the time.
Gay used to mean happy. Think back to the Flintstones theme song, ';We'll have a gay old time!'; They weren't talking about homosexuality were they? Words change meaning to fit the times.
So will the word ';marriage';
whats wrong with gays marring each other would you deny a person his happiness in this cruel *** ed world if they love each other? so what ? I know some gays,, they are not that bad,, if fact most of them are pretty nice people,, great dressers and stylists, and smart too ,.they should be able to lead a normal life with out people harassing them ,,,you know like the romans did the Christan's? now the Christan's are feeding the gays to the lions,, they are hypocrites and the bad thing about them is that they try to force their beliefs on others who are not bothering them I hate the WORD and the Christan's,, the romans should have feed them all to the lions
Are you calling atheists gay....Don't you mean why can't fundies understand gay marriage is impossible, you would get many more answers, straight to your hate filled heart.
Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_di…
Perhaps not all do, but due to its religious linkage, and to the authority of the Bible, and the general anarchist spirit of atheism and its lack of an objective transcendent moral authority, then they are in league with homosexuals. The former reject the Bible, while the latter controvert Biblical teaching, and reject its Divine inspiration. But their polemics are fallacious. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Hom…
You are mistaken.
The meaning of the word confers certain legal rights which some people would deny others because they have a different sexual orientation. Legal rights such as adoption status, income tax filing status, health care coverage status, inheritance status, etc.
Marriage is not determined solely by religion anymore. It is now legal in several states. Love or hate it, it is here to stay. It only defies the meaning of the word as defined by you.
Btw: I'm a married, straight, non-atheist.
its funny you address this to atheists.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_di…
it would seem to me that the religious are destroying the ';sanctity'; of marriage with their higher divorce rates :D
LOL?
Marriage is a secular legal contract between two consenting adults and the State.
The sexes of the parties involved is not relevant, and so same-sex marriage is no less ';possible'; than mixed-sex marriage.
They say the meaning of gay and marriage can change but if you change the definition of atheist as to be a religion then that is impossible and un true.
It's not impossible, it's possible in like 6 states now... And possibly D.C. soon.
Because nobody is not let black people get married ... so yeah, it's called rights, and everybody has them.
Not really, some couples (man/Woman) get married, but can't have children, but they are still married........
If you are implying that you need to be able to produce babies to be called a proper marriage........
Well considering it has happened already it's not impossible unless the definition of the word has changed since I last checked.
As long as we are unable to redefine words i guess that makes happy marriage impossible.
i am sure that the way you use the word gay did not exist oh 50 years or so ago.
I feel sorry for Jayden...
Poor child.
Why can't Jayden's mommy understand that it's none of her business who gets married and who doesn't?
If it's impossible, why are fundamentalists opposed to it?
Proverbs 14, 19
Lust indulged starves the soul, but fools hate to turn from evil.
Really? Then how the hell have the South Africans managed to legalize it?
Gay people get married all the time. Looks possible to me.
Wow how many times did your kids drop you on your head?
no kidding! Most married people are far from gay!
why do you care what other people do?
I wonder why atheists can't understand that gay marriage is stupid.
They aren't very bright.
When l can find free California marriage and birth records online?
I've tried,but they need a fee. ThanksWhen l can find free California marriage and birth records online?
This is as close as you're going to get, for free.
http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/d鈥?/a>
California Death Records
9,366,786 records from 1940 thru 1997
Many, not all of the records for men have mother's maiden name.
Many, not all, of the records for women have both MMN and father's surname.
Ancestry has three databases from California for subscribers,
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
California Marriage Index, 1960-1985
California Divorce Index, 1966-1984When l can find free California marriage and birth records online?
They are not online and are not free. You did not say if it is for someone living now or lived a long time ago. That MAY make a difference, in some states. Some states will put such records on their website for people who have been deceased a long time. But such records are private for living people and only those individuals or their parents or their children can obtain them....and there IS a fee because it is a means for the state to generate revenue, in addition to the fact that the storage and maintenance of such records is not free. The state pays for the staff, equipment, and facilities to do that. In any event, you will need to contact the Dept. of Vital Statistics for the state the person was born in for birth records, died in for death records, and married in for marriage records. With any luck, the person did all 3 in the same state.
I don't think you can get a record of your birth certificate for free. There is always a fee. here is one site, please check for your birth certificate. http://www.replacementbirthcertificate.o鈥?/a>
This is as close as you're going to get, for free.
http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/d鈥?/a>
California Death Records
9,366,786 records from 1940 thru 1997
Many, not all of the records for men have mother's maiden name.
Many, not all, of the records for women have both MMN and father's surname.
Ancestry has three databases from California for subscribers,
California Birth Index, 1905-1995
California Marriage Index, 1960-1985
California Divorce Index, 1966-1984When l can find free California marriage and birth records online?
They are not online and are not free. You did not say if it is for someone living now or lived a long time ago. That MAY make a difference, in some states. Some states will put such records on their website for people who have been deceased a long time. But such records are private for living people and only those individuals or their parents or their children can obtain them....and there IS a fee because it is a means for the state to generate revenue, in addition to the fact that the storage and maintenance of such records is not free. The state pays for the staff, equipment, and facilities to do that. In any event, you will need to contact the Dept. of Vital Statistics for the state the person was born in for birth records, died in for death records, and married in for marriage records. With any luck, the person did all 3 in the same state.
I don't think you can get a record of your birth certificate for free. There is always a fee. here is one site, please check for your birth certificate. http://www.replacementbirthcertificate.o鈥?/a>
If you are opposed to gay marriage, it is just for religious reasons?
Also, should gays be allowed to adopt? Are there any other ';rights'; denied to gays that straight people have?
Please try and be productive in your answer!!
Thanks!If you are opposed to gay marriage, it is just for religious reasons?
If you're married and get sick, your spouse automatically can visit you and make medical decisions for you.
If you die, your assets automatically pass to your spouse.
If you cover your spouse on your insurance you don't pay taxes on that coverage as income, gay people do and they don't get any of those other benefits without shaky complex and expensive legal arrangements that may or may not hold up in court.
Gays are not asking for religious blessings. We are not asking for everyone to come to our weddings. We are not asking the government to force churches, mosques and synagogues to perform marriage rituals or even to allow us into their tax-exempt edifices. We are simply demanding equal protection under the laws of this nation as tax paying, voting, property owning citizens. I want no more or less protection than granted any heterosexual to control and distribute my holdings.If you are opposed to gay marriage, it is just for religious reasons?
Currently, the major basis of my opposition is that it is presented dishonestly.
It's presented as a matter of ';equality';.
The fact is that marriage is a status that confers various forms of special treatment. What those are and whether or not they are justifiable or fairly distributed is beside the point, marriage itself is an INequality.
The gay marriage proponents want that inequality extended to more people, but not ';all'; people. Single persons would still be denied the status, among others, including Widows who once enjoyed it. It will still be an inequality, even after they get what they are asking for.
Until they honestly admit that this is the case, I oppose them. Until they admit that they simply want the opportunity to enjoy the inequality, and present a case to justify their inclusion, I'm not interested in listening to BS about ';equality';.
Martin Luther King didn't ask merely for Blacks to be given equality with Whites. The civil rights movement included all races.
The gay marriage proponents need to acknowledge the fact that their proposal will still exclude some individuals from the institution of Marriage, which they can only do if they stop talking about ';equality';.
If it were really about ';equality';, they would be proposing ending the tangible benefits of the inequality. They aren't.
There are no valid reasons to deny gay marriage.
Marriage is a civil institution which allows spouses many rights that are not available to couples in domestic partnerships or civil unions. All people deserve to have the same government-protected rights whether they are in a life-long committed relationship with a man or a woman. Also, civil unions or domestic partnerships are not sufficient to ensure that people of all sexual orientations are guaranteed the same civil rights. The Supreme Court wisely decided that separate is inherently unequal, thus civil unions/domestic partnerships cannot be equal. The fact that they are separated is a badge of inferiority. Many religions recognize marriage as a religious institution in addition to a civil one. However, churches may choose which couples to marry. Also, straight couples are able to marry in a civil ceremony even if they are not religious. This is because the United States does not have a national religion; there is a separation of church and state.
Furthermore, allowing gay marriage protects families. It ensures that partners, who in some cases have lived commited to one another for decades, can visit one another in the hospital, make critical medical decisons, secure healthcare benefits and adoptions by gay couples would allow the children the same security as those children placed in the homes of straight couples.
For a more comprehensive list of the rights that are denied when gay marriage is denied: http://community.pflag.org/Page.aspx?pid鈥?/a>
I am not necessarily opposed to gay marriage. I am certainly more for it then I am against it. The one thing that has always bothered me was the whole ';separation of church and state';. It was always my understanding that marriage, as it is currently formed, originated from a specific religious institution. As such, I think the very specific brand of ';church'; marriage should not be able to be ';forced'; by anyone but that particular religions leaders.
I am atheist, so I am not personally affected one way or the other here. I certainly think that at the very LEAST there should be a 100% equal alternative, and why it cannot be called marriage is beyond me?
It's a hard line to walk. I was a bit of an optimist, and had hoped that major organized religions, specifically Christian/Catholic derivatives which are a the core of our domestic policies on this issue, would come around on their own. The new pope, however, has shattered any illusions I may have had about that. At this point, I think more social pressure needs to be put on these groups in order to keep the fight moving forward.
As far as adoption goes, why not? Gay people should have every chance to have a kid and screw it up that straight people have. Lord knows my straight parents did an excellent job of screwing my head up!
I am inclined to agree with daddio's take on both the definition of and purpose of marriage, and I believe that is where the sticking point lies.
Since we no longer live in the dark ages, I say change the legal terms and definitions regarding union of couples, and let the religious institutions hash out their own end of the issue.
I also agree with Holy Cow: gays pay taxes like everyone else in this country, why are their rights subject to regulation?
Just as a reply to the person who's user name is Wondering Why- it wasn't too long ago that it was considered ';unnatural'; and ';disgusting'; for blacks and white to marry. So just keep that in mind.
Gay marriage, straight marriage-- both consist of two people who love each other wanting to spend the rest of their lives together. When you compare the two, what you're really saying is, ';What makes my marriage- my love for this person- more valid, more moral than yours?';
For any person here who TRULY believes in an America which allows ALL people the right to life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (no matter what path that pursuit leads you down- granted that its not murder,lol), it should be clear that gay people have the right to marry. That it is illegal in some states is nothing less than a civil rights violation.
Of course, my faith is a huge part of my objection to gay marriage. God says in the Bible that is an abomination and he destroyed Sodom and Gammora (sp?) because of it. I do not believe gay people should be allowed to adopt. I do not hate gay people, I just disagree with their lifestyle. I believe everyone deserves respect and consideration. We are all human beings.
I find it to be very perverse and unnatural. I have God in mind in everything I do, and I know what He thinks about homosexuality. So yes, it is mostly for religious reasons. A smaller, but no less important reason, is that I've had to explain to my five year old son why some men kiss and hold hands. It's a shame that a small child has to witness such things.
I don't believe we should call it marriage! A union giving equal rights to partners is fine but we must understand this leaves the door open for people to claim there pets as spouses or any other creature. Marriage is a sanction for heterosexuals not homosexuals. A union of two people that legally bind them is different!
here's my take---marriage IS a PURELY religious idea in the first place, ESTABLISHED by religion FOR religious purposes. let CHURCHES sort this out. NO ONE has the ';right'; to effect their own ';choice'; upon them. especially some belligerent outcasts.
now if the government wants to promote ';unions'; of any kind, they should all be treated equal. that being said--child tax credits and the such---were invented to promote PROCREATION. something gay couples cannot do. and there is NOTHING normal ablout two daddies or two mommies--those would be some f'ed up adults later.
look i separated church and state for y'all.
I am opposed to it. And no they should not be allowed to raise children. People are not animals born with genetic memory on how to live their lives. They learn every thing from their parents. No matter how many times you tell me it would be OK, if you are a man you know that if you saw your father being gay and kissing other men that would f you up in a big way.
No it is due to the ridiculousness of the whole idea. Live together, have a domestic partnership if you wish but the whole idea of calling it ';marriage'; is ludicrous..
As for adoption I am fine with gay adoption as a last resort but feel a male/female couple is better suited to raise children..
I am shocked that this was struck down in California of all places and On a year that should have seen right wing BS take a backseat. I am sure that countrywide the results would be different. I hate to see bigotry of any kind. Being a 42 year old Black man I thought that I would never see bigotry win another battle in this society. As far as adoptions go, a good parent is often hard to find and the same people that would refuse a Woman's right to choose are the same ones that would deny an orphaned child the right of a loving home.
BTW I am a Married man with 4 beautiful children, My family and I are simply opposed to anyone shoving their personal beliefs down societies throat as a whole. That is against the whole beauty of America.
It is a religious reason for those against it.
Otherwise, those of us with a clear head can see that gay marriage and adoption would contribute to the state and economy in the form of capital!
Marriage licenses and money going to wedding facilities, etc... would be a cash cow!
No, i don't think they should be able to get married, not for religious reasons, but for the reason that i just don't think it's right. they should be able to have a union. yes i think they should be able to adopt.
There are a multitude of 'rights' that aren't actually 'rights'.
Forcing a deviant lifestyle down my throat is getting tiresome. It isn't an inborn tendancy. It's a chosen lifestyle.
The whole concept is unnatural and disgusting.
it is not for religion purposes,it opposes the constitution
Would you like to have 2 fathers or 2 mothers as your parents? There you go.
My wife %26amp; I both support gay marriage.
We don't care if someone else gets married, why should the government?
Please try and be productive in your answer!!
Thanks!If you are opposed to gay marriage, it is just for religious reasons?
If you're married and get sick, your spouse automatically can visit you and make medical decisions for you.
If you die, your assets automatically pass to your spouse.
If you cover your spouse on your insurance you don't pay taxes on that coverage as income, gay people do and they don't get any of those other benefits without shaky complex and expensive legal arrangements that may or may not hold up in court.
Gays are not asking for religious blessings. We are not asking for everyone to come to our weddings. We are not asking the government to force churches, mosques and synagogues to perform marriage rituals or even to allow us into their tax-exempt edifices. We are simply demanding equal protection under the laws of this nation as tax paying, voting, property owning citizens. I want no more or less protection than granted any heterosexual to control and distribute my holdings.If you are opposed to gay marriage, it is just for religious reasons?
Currently, the major basis of my opposition is that it is presented dishonestly.
It's presented as a matter of ';equality';.
The fact is that marriage is a status that confers various forms of special treatment. What those are and whether or not they are justifiable or fairly distributed is beside the point, marriage itself is an INequality.
The gay marriage proponents want that inequality extended to more people, but not ';all'; people. Single persons would still be denied the status, among others, including Widows who once enjoyed it. It will still be an inequality, even after they get what they are asking for.
Until they honestly admit that this is the case, I oppose them. Until they admit that they simply want the opportunity to enjoy the inequality, and present a case to justify their inclusion, I'm not interested in listening to BS about ';equality';.
Martin Luther King didn't ask merely for Blacks to be given equality with Whites. The civil rights movement included all races.
The gay marriage proponents need to acknowledge the fact that their proposal will still exclude some individuals from the institution of Marriage, which they can only do if they stop talking about ';equality';.
If it were really about ';equality';, they would be proposing ending the tangible benefits of the inequality. They aren't.
There are no valid reasons to deny gay marriage.
Marriage is a civil institution which allows spouses many rights that are not available to couples in domestic partnerships or civil unions. All people deserve to have the same government-protected rights whether they are in a life-long committed relationship with a man or a woman. Also, civil unions or domestic partnerships are not sufficient to ensure that people of all sexual orientations are guaranteed the same civil rights. The Supreme Court wisely decided that separate is inherently unequal, thus civil unions/domestic partnerships cannot be equal. The fact that they are separated is a badge of inferiority. Many religions recognize marriage as a religious institution in addition to a civil one. However, churches may choose which couples to marry. Also, straight couples are able to marry in a civil ceremony even if they are not religious. This is because the United States does not have a national religion; there is a separation of church and state.
Furthermore, allowing gay marriage protects families. It ensures that partners, who in some cases have lived commited to one another for decades, can visit one another in the hospital, make critical medical decisons, secure healthcare benefits and adoptions by gay couples would allow the children the same security as those children placed in the homes of straight couples.
For a more comprehensive list of the rights that are denied when gay marriage is denied: http://community.pflag.org/Page.aspx?pid鈥?/a>
I am not necessarily opposed to gay marriage. I am certainly more for it then I am against it. The one thing that has always bothered me was the whole ';separation of church and state';. It was always my understanding that marriage, as it is currently formed, originated from a specific religious institution. As such, I think the very specific brand of ';church'; marriage should not be able to be ';forced'; by anyone but that particular religions leaders.
I am atheist, so I am not personally affected one way or the other here. I certainly think that at the very LEAST there should be a 100% equal alternative, and why it cannot be called marriage is beyond me?
It's a hard line to walk. I was a bit of an optimist, and had hoped that major organized religions, specifically Christian/Catholic derivatives which are a the core of our domestic policies on this issue, would come around on their own. The new pope, however, has shattered any illusions I may have had about that. At this point, I think more social pressure needs to be put on these groups in order to keep the fight moving forward.
As far as adoption goes, why not? Gay people should have every chance to have a kid and screw it up that straight people have. Lord knows my straight parents did an excellent job of screwing my head up!
I am inclined to agree with daddio's take on both the definition of and purpose of marriage, and I believe that is where the sticking point lies.
Since we no longer live in the dark ages, I say change the legal terms and definitions regarding union of couples, and let the religious institutions hash out their own end of the issue.
I also agree with Holy Cow: gays pay taxes like everyone else in this country, why are their rights subject to regulation?
Just as a reply to the person who's user name is Wondering Why- it wasn't too long ago that it was considered ';unnatural'; and ';disgusting'; for blacks and white to marry. So just keep that in mind.
Gay marriage, straight marriage-- both consist of two people who love each other wanting to spend the rest of their lives together. When you compare the two, what you're really saying is, ';What makes my marriage- my love for this person- more valid, more moral than yours?';
For any person here who TRULY believes in an America which allows ALL people the right to life liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (no matter what path that pursuit leads you down- granted that its not murder,lol), it should be clear that gay people have the right to marry. That it is illegal in some states is nothing less than a civil rights violation.
Of course, my faith is a huge part of my objection to gay marriage. God says in the Bible that is an abomination and he destroyed Sodom and Gammora (sp?) because of it. I do not believe gay people should be allowed to adopt. I do not hate gay people, I just disagree with their lifestyle. I believe everyone deserves respect and consideration. We are all human beings.
I find it to be very perverse and unnatural. I have God in mind in everything I do, and I know what He thinks about homosexuality. So yes, it is mostly for religious reasons. A smaller, but no less important reason, is that I've had to explain to my five year old son why some men kiss and hold hands. It's a shame that a small child has to witness such things.
I don't believe we should call it marriage! A union giving equal rights to partners is fine but we must understand this leaves the door open for people to claim there pets as spouses or any other creature. Marriage is a sanction for heterosexuals not homosexuals. A union of two people that legally bind them is different!
here's my take---marriage IS a PURELY religious idea in the first place, ESTABLISHED by religion FOR religious purposes. let CHURCHES sort this out. NO ONE has the ';right'; to effect their own ';choice'; upon them. especially some belligerent outcasts.
now if the government wants to promote ';unions'; of any kind, they should all be treated equal. that being said--child tax credits and the such---were invented to promote PROCREATION. something gay couples cannot do. and there is NOTHING normal ablout two daddies or two mommies--those would be some f'ed up adults later.
look i separated church and state for y'all.
I am opposed to it. And no they should not be allowed to raise children. People are not animals born with genetic memory on how to live their lives. They learn every thing from their parents. No matter how many times you tell me it would be OK, if you are a man you know that if you saw your father being gay and kissing other men that would f you up in a big way.
No it is due to the ridiculousness of the whole idea. Live together, have a domestic partnership if you wish but the whole idea of calling it ';marriage'; is ludicrous..
As for adoption I am fine with gay adoption as a last resort but feel a male/female couple is better suited to raise children..
I am shocked that this was struck down in California of all places and On a year that should have seen right wing BS take a backseat. I am sure that countrywide the results would be different. I hate to see bigotry of any kind. Being a 42 year old Black man I thought that I would never see bigotry win another battle in this society. As far as adoptions go, a good parent is often hard to find and the same people that would refuse a Woman's right to choose are the same ones that would deny an orphaned child the right of a loving home.
BTW I am a Married man with 4 beautiful children, My family and I are simply opposed to anyone shoving their personal beliefs down societies throat as a whole. That is against the whole beauty of America.
It is a religious reason for those against it.
Otherwise, those of us with a clear head can see that gay marriage and adoption would contribute to the state and economy in the form of capital!
Marriage licenses and money going to wedding facilities, etc... would be a cash cow!
No, i don't think they should be able to get married, not for religious reasons, but for the reason that i just don't think it's right. they should be able to have a union. yes i think they should be able to adopt.
There are a multitude of 'rights' that aren't actually 'rights'.
Forcing a deviant lifestyle down my throat is getting tiresome. It isn't an inborn tendancy. It's a chosen lifestyle.
The whole concept is unnatural and disgusting.
it is not for religion purposes,it opposes the constitution
Would you like to have 2 fathers or 2 mothers as your parents? There you go.
My wife %26amp; I both support gay marriage.
We don't care if someone else gets married, why should the government?
How do you feel about prop 8 passing in California and banning gay marriage ?
I am glad it passedHow do you feel about prop 8 passing in California and banning gay marriage ?
Once again, ';The people have spoken';. Unfortunately, I believe it will be only a matter of time before some judge(s) decide to make law instead of interpreting it and once again override the ';Will of the people';.How do you feel about prop 8 passing in California and banning gay marriage ?
The Constitutional structure and brilliance of the founders' vision of America is that the people are not allowed to simply by majority vote decide whether minorities get fundamental rights. Mob rule, even at the ballot box, is unAmerican. ===
Why glad it passed? Why insist that the Constitution enforce only your view of how everyone can act?
This amendment violates the spirit of the Constitution in many ways:
1) It violates freedom of religion. The churches and religions that believe in the sanctity of gay marriages as well as straight marriages are banned from practicing their religion.
2) It establishes a religious view of marriage for state marriages.
3) It violates the rights of privacy and association for gays.
4) and, of course, it discriminates against a discrete and insular minority on the basis of their minority status.
Also -- it is a very activist amendment. Any true conservative should oppose the ban on gay marriages because:
1) It is the ultimate in big government telling individuals what they can and cannot do.
2) Conservatives should be encouraging stable marriages and relationships and the integration into the institutions of civil society of all citizens.
Churches should be very wary of this move. My grandfather was a minister who taught me that the worst thing for the church will be when the separation of church and state breaks down, because when the government starts dictating to one group about religion, soon it will dictate to all.
Is there any argument for a ban on gay marriage that makes sense, other than the argument that gays are bad?
I think it's sad that it passed. And I also don't like that straight people get to vote on how they think gay people live their lives. Period blank there shouldn't be a law on it at all! On civil unions yes, but it is the CHURCH's decision on who gets married in their church, not the governments decision.
This is who I look at it: If gays are granted the same rights as straight people, who is it hurting? Is it going to hurt straight people in any way? No. Is it going to make a lot of gay people very happy? Yes. Will it put an end to alot of insurance fraud that is stemming from gays not getting the same rights as straights? Yes. The only things that can come from it, is positive things.
I don't see what the big deal is.
I'm pleased. If the people against it bend, or if liberal judges overturn the vote against the will of the people (which is likely), it will open doors to passages we don't wanna go down. If legal gay marriage becomes accepted, what's next, are the creeps who like banging farm animals gonna want marriage rights with their sheep?
Why are are you glad it passed? Why is it your business if gay people get married or not? Personally, I don't like that the stupid and the narrow minded are allowed to get married, but I'm not trying to ban them from being able to do so. That would be discrimination and discrimination is wrong, right? I'm tired of the idiots who say they do this for their kids, too. How does teaching intolerance and bigotry help our kids? My kids, who are 11 and 13 (both boys), have had trouble understanding why people would try to stop gay people from getting married. They understand that it this is unfair. Why don't most adults?
I think that anything concerning minorities should not be voted on by the majority. For example, Brown vs Board of Education was a Supreme Court case. I feel that anything involving gay rights should be handled in the Supreme Court as well.
Whether or not someone is granted civil rights shouldn't be left in the hands of a popular vote. It doesn't seem fair.
Disgusted. Seems like a lot of straight, nasty, bigoted, judgmental people aren't engaged in very satisfying marriages themselves, that they have spare time to try to force their nasty ideology down the throats of the rest of the nation. It's really not anyone's business but the couple's in question.
Prop 8 DEFINES marriage, period.
This is not a gay rights issue or a civil rights issue! It is a parental rights issue.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politi鈥?/a>
It was the sensible and correct decision. Same sex marriage is a contradiction. Also, it is a silly childish liberal idea which denies the ';purpose'; of marriage.
Well the people voted for it to be banned so it cannot be faulted for that reason. I am against gay marriage personally.
8 years ago a similar ban passed, but by a MUCH wider margin. History is on our side. I'm sad, but I'm not worried. This issue will never go away until we win it.
PTL!!
I'm glad it passed too.
HOORAY!!!!! We still have parental rights!
i don't care
Once again, ';The people have spoken';. Unfortunately, I believe it will be only a matter of time before some judge(s) decide to make law instead of interpreting it and once again override the ';Will of the people';.How do you feel about prop 8 passing in California and banning gay marriage ?
The Constitutional structure and brilliance of the founders' vision of America is that the people are not allowed to simply by majority vote decide whether minorities get fundamental rights. Mob rule, even at the ballot box, is unAmerican. ===
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Why glad it passed? Why insist that the Constitution enforce only your view of how everyone can act?
This amendment violates the spirit of the Constitution in many ways:
1) It violates freedom of religion. The churches and religions that believe in the sanctity of gay marriages as well as straight marriages are banned from practicing their religion.
2) It establishes a religious view of marriage for state marriages.
3) It violates the rights of privacy and association for gays.
4) and, of course, it discriminates against a discrete and insular minority on the basis of their minority status.
Also -- it is a very activist amendment. Any true conservative should oppose the ban on gay marriages because:
1) It is the ultimate in big government telling individuals what they can and cannot do.
2) Conservatives should be encouraging stable marriages and relationships and the integration into the institutions of civil society of all citizens.
Churches should be very wary of this move. My grandfather was a minister who taught me that the worst thing for the church will be when the separation of church and state breaks down, because when the government starts dictating to one group about religion, soon it will dictate to all.
Is there any argument for a ban on gay marriage that makes sense, other than the argument that gays are bad?
I think it's sad that it passed. And I also don't like that straight people get to vote on how they think gay people live their lives. Period blank there shouldn't be a law on it at all! On civil unions yes, but it is the CHURCH's decision on who gets married in their church, not the governments decision.
This is who I look at it: If gays are granted the same rights as straight people, who is it hurting? Is it going to hurt straight people in any way? No. Is it going to make a lot of gay people very happy? Yes. Will it put an end to alot of insurance fraud that is stemming from gays not getting the same rights as straights? Yes. The only things that can come from it, is positive things.
I don't see what the big deal is.
I'm pleased. If the people against it bend, or if liberal judges overturn the vote against the will of the people (which is likely), it will open doors to passages we don't wanna go down. If legal gay marriage becomes accepted, what's next, are the creeps who like banging farm animals gonna want marriage rights with their sheep?
Why are are you glad it passed? Why is it your business if gay people get married or not? Personally, I don't like that the stupid and the narrow minded are allowed to get married, but I'm not trying to ban them from being able to do so. That would be discrimination and discrimination is wrong, right? I'm tired of the idiots who say they do this for their kids, too. How does teaching intolerance and bigotry help our kids? My kids, who are 11 and 13 (both boys), have had trouble understanding why people would try to stop gay people from getting married. They understand that it this is unfair. Why don't most adults?
I think that anything concerning minorities should not be voted on by the majority. For example, Brown vs Board of Education was a Supreme Court case. I feel that anything involving gay rights should be handled in the Supreme Court as well.
Whether or not someone is granted civil rights shouldn't be left in the hands of a popular vote. It doesn't seem fair.
Disgusted. Seems like a lot of straight, nasty, bigoted, judgmental people aren't engaged in very satisfying marriages themselves, that they have spare time to try to force their nasty ideology down the throats of the rest of the nation. It's really not anyone's business but the couple's in question.
Prop 8 DEFINES marriage, period.
This is not a gay rights issue or a civil rights issue! It is a parental rights issue.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politi鈥?/a>
It was the sensible and correct decision. Same sex marriage is a contradiction. Also, it is a silly childish liberal idea which denies the ';purpose'; of marriage.
Well the people voted for it to be banned so it cannot be faulted for that reason. I am against gay marriage personally.
8 years ago a similar ban passed, but by a MUCH wider margin. History is on our side. I'm sad, but I'm not worried. This issue will never go away until we win it.
PTL!!
I'm glad it passed too.
HOORAY!!!!! We still have parental rights!
i don't care
Now that Iowa is pro gay marriage, how long before children's books are rewritten to accommodate this reality?
I give it ten years for gay activist to successfully sue the board of ed to include same sex children books in their curriculum.
Your thoughts?Now that Iowa is pro gay marriage, how long before children's books are rewritten to accommodate this reality?
That long? I'd be willing to bet that it come up around 2010, just in time for the next election.Now that Iowa is pro gay marriage, how long before children's books are rewritten to accommodate this reality?
Um, there are schools in this country that have same sex books in their libraries. You might be shocked but the novel ';Fried Green Tomatoes'; is considered a lesbian novel. There are numerous books in school libraries that are gay in nature, but many don't know that's what they are.
As for children's books, there is no need for any of them to be rewritten because there are books out there and there will be more in the future.
you must be from CA, because children's books were a big part of prop 8... anyway, if there really are any books specifically like that, I would say a change in the next ten years since most books are national/semi-national.
The wording that the SUPREMES used would allow for Polygamy. There is no difference in their interpretation of ';discrimination';.
This is a Pandora's box.
These books more than likely have already been printed a few years ago ! Bill Ayers I`m sure is always prepared to demonize morality in all areas` of American family life !
yes, how horrible it is to treat all people equally
After all, the basis of the US is discrimination and hate mongering
Well, it is a reality, so someone will write one. There are plenty of books already.
Hopefully not as long as it took them to start including African American history.
They still haven't wrote that children's book on divorce.
So much for PERSONAL FREEDOM. Social Conservatives!
I am just glad my kids will not be in public schools 10 years from now.
Why are these two related? Way too much right wing radio, beo...way. No kiddin'!
A sign of the times, my friend.
Your thoughts?Now that Iowa is pro gay marriage, how long before children's books are rewritten to accommodate this reality?
That long? I'd be willing to bet that it come up around 2010, just in time for the next election.Now that Iowa is pro gay marriage, how long before children's books are rewritten to accommodate this reality?
Um, there are schools in this country that have same sex books in their libraries. You might be shocked but the novel ';Fried Green Tomatoes'; is considered a lesbian novel. There are numerous books in school libraries that are gay in nature, but many don't know that's what they are.
As for children's books, there is no need for any of them to be rewritten because there are books out there and there will be more in the future.
you must be from CA, because children's books were a big part of prop 8... anyway, if there really are any books specifically like that, I would say a change in the next ten years since most books are national/semi-national.
The wording that the SUPREMES used would allow for Polygamy. There is no difference in their interpretation of ';discrimination';.
This is a Pandora's box.
These books more than likely have already been printed a few years ago ! Bill Ayers I`m sure is always prepared to demonize morality in all areas` of American family life !
yes, how horrible it is to treat all people equally
After all, the basis of the US is discrimination and hate mongering
Well, it is a reality, so someone will write one. There are plenty of books already.
Hopefully not as long as it took them to start including African American history.
They still haven't wrote that children's book on divorce.
So much for PERSONAL FREEDOM. Social Conservatives!
I am just glad my kids will not be in public schools 10 years from now.
Why are these two related? Way too much right wing radio, beo...way. No kiddin'!
A sign of the times, my friend.
Do you think homosexuality or gay marriage is right?
I hope to get a lot of intresting answers...
:)
My answer?
In the end, love is blind.Which means if you love somebody then there should be nothing stopping you from getting married.Do you think homosexuality or gay marriage is right?
In our laws, marriage is not a right. It's like a job description. The law encourages and supports and honors marriage only because marriage was thought to be the best institution for raising our nation's children. We encourage marriage like we encourage farming. Marriages produce and raise our nation's children while farmers produce and raise our nation's food. We define farmers as far as the law is concerned and we define marriage also.Do you think homosexuality or gay marriage is right?
marriage is between a man and a woman
not a man and a man
not a woman and a woman
not an umbrella and a watermelon
not a pickle and a beachball
not a duck and a pair of shoes.
The wise public of California have defined marriage to avoid further ambiguity and confusion. . Other progressive states will likely follow suit in the future.
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My answer?
In the end, love is blind.Which means if you love somebody then there should be nothing stopping you from getting married.Do you think homosexuality or gay marriage is right?
In our laws, marriage is not a right. It's like a job description. The law encourages and supports and honors marriage only because marriage was thought to be the best institution for raising our nation's children. We encourage marriage like we encourage farming. Marriages produce and raise our nation's children while farmers produce and raise our nation's food. We define farmers as far as the law is concerned and we define marriage also.Do you think homosexuality or gay marriage is right?
marriage is between a man and a woman
not a man and a man
not a woman and a woman
not an umbrella and a watermelon
not a pickle and a beachball
not a duck and a pair of shoes.
The wise public of California have defined marriage to avoid further ambiguity and confusion. . Other progressive states will likely follow suit in the future.
How long should you be in a relationship b4 u start thinking about marriage?
every relationship is different some people know straight away. My parents married after six months and they are still happily married 35 years laterHow long should you be in a relationship b4 u start thinking about marriage?
It depends on love, your age, length of relationship, parental approval, education, finacial security is very important, capatability and can both of you like what you see in the morning.
If you love each very much, a year is enough time. If you just want security this is not the way to go!How long should you be in a relationship b4 u start thinking about marriage?
I dont enter a relationship unless I think it could ultimately lead to marriage (as in, unless i can see myself marrying the guy). I dont like to talk about marriage with the person until I feel sure it could work, so maybe after a year or two.
And the way marriages are now-a-day . . . If you are under the age of 25 . . . why are you in a relationship . . . because one of the reasons people divorce is because they are still learning about themselves . . . and they change . . . and because they change they are no longer the person (or you are no longer the person) you've fell in love with.
In the U.S. 50% of all marriages end in divorce . . . If marriaged after the age of 25 . . . 75% end up in divorce if married earlier.
Also, look into a prenupt . . . I know women cringe on it . . . and it is not a trust issue . . . but it is an insurance issue . . . .
It is like auto insurance for marriage . . . no one plans to get into an accident, but if it happens it is nice to have. Marriage is the same thing, but you are more likely to get into a divorce than into an auto accident. Should you have insurance for prevent you from losing half of everything you worked hard to earn. Plus after it is signed . . . place it in a safety deposit box at the bank . . . and forget about it. If you get a divorce the box will come up in the documents of assets . . . but the asset is for you alone.
The main reason . . . of the split up . . . is they didn't fulfill the dreams - fantasies - and career goal. . . . what about your education . . . and career or are you just going to sit around the house and get fat.
I tell guys . . . don't get married . . . until you have fulfilled your career goals . . . because if they do . . . their wives are going to complain that you spend too much time at work and don't spend enough time with me. So he spend more time with her and because he didn't work his a** off . . . he won't get that promotion to buy you things later.
Plus when you are young . . . do you really know what love is . . . I didn't . . . what I thought was love was infatuation . . . so don't see the person shortcomings or faults . . . . or if you do . . . you say . . . ';isn't that cute he leave his socks all over the floor . . . he soo helpless and I love to help him'; . . . but after you get married and are together for a while then it goes . . . ';that lazy son of a B***** . . . . he doesn't do anything . . . always leaving a mess . . . watching TV'; He done that from the beginning but when you are in a serious serious relationship . . . things change . . . usually the women . . . rarely the men.
I hope you take this into mind . . . don't get into a serious relationship . . . you really should have a boyfriend . . . if you expect to do good in college. . . and I am not talking community college . . . I am talking University . . . you should expect the best of yourself . . . and you will get the best person for yourself later down the line . . . if it is the same person . . . then it is meant to be . . . if not . . . so be it.
Marriage is wonderful . . . but not for everyone . . . if you decide to get married . . . play it safe
There is no right or wrong answer to this question, it varies from person to person, relationship to relationship, situation to situation. The first time I got married we had been in a relationship for almost 4 years and after 7 years of marriage it ended. In my current marriage we were in a relationship for only 6 months before we got married and after 7 years we are still married. In other words the length of time before really didn't matter it was more about the timing and the feelings involved. The best thing I can tell you is make sure that your both on the same page about thinking of marriage.
it depends but let him bring up the topic
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Depends on how quickly you want to ruin that relationship.
Why ruin a good thing by getting married???!!!???
how long have you've been in this relationship has it been a year or more? if it's been past six years you may want to re-think this relationship then again he may ask you the next year. It really depends on you and how long you want to wait. But personally I wish I had waited more four years to marry at least by then you really know them and there quirks are truely revealed.
If you're ready emotionally, mentally, physically and financially, then go for it.purple makeup
It depends on love, your age, length of relationship, parental approval, education, finacial security is very important, capatability and can both of you like what you see in the morning.
If you love each very much, a year is enough time. If you just want security this is not the way to go!How long should you be in a relationship b4 u start thinking about marriage?
I dont enter a relationship unless I think it could ultimately lead to marriage (as in, unless i can see myself marrying the guy). I dont like to talk about marriage with the person until I feel sure it could work, so maybe after a year or two.
And the way marriages are now-a-day . . . If you are under the age of 25 . . . why are you in a relationship . . . because one of the reasons people divorce is because they are still learning about themselves . . . and they change . . . and because they change they are no longer the person (or you are no longer the person) you've fell in love with.
In the U.S. 50% of all marriages end in divorce . . . If marriaged after the age of 25 . . . 75% end up in divorce if married earlier.
Also, look into a prenupt . . . I know women cringe on it . . . and it is not a trust issue . . . but it is an insurance issue . . . .
It is like auto insurance for marriage . . . no one plans to get into an accident, but if it happens it is nice to have. Marriage is the same thing, but you are more likely to get into a divorce than into an auto accident. Should you have insurance for prevent you from losing half of everything you worked hard to earn. Plus after it is signed . . . place it in a safety deposit box at the bank . . . and forget about it. If you get a divorce the box will come up in the documents of assets . . . but the asset is for you alone.
The main reason . . . of the split up . . . is they didn't fulfill the dreams - fantasies - and career goal. . . . what about your education . . . and career or are you just going to sit around the house and get fat.
I tell guys . . . don't get married . . . until you have fulfilled your career goals . . . because if they do . . . their wives are going to complain that you spend too much time at work and don't spend enough time with me. So he spend more time with her and because he didn't work his a** off . . . he won't get that promotion to buy you things later.
Plus when you are young . . . do you really know what love is . . . I didn't . . . what I thought was love was infatuation . . . so don't see the person shortcomings or faults . . . . or if you do . . . you say . . . ';isn't that cute he leave his socks all over the floor . . . he soo helpless and I love to help him'; . . . but after you get married and are together for a while then it goes . . . ';that lazy son of a B***** . . . . he doesn't do anything . . . always leaving a mess . . . watching TV'; He done that from the beginning but when you are in a serious serious relationship . . . things change . . . usually the women . . . rarely the men.
I hope you take this into mind . . . don't get into a serious relationship . . . you really should have a boyfriend . . . if you expect to do good in college. . . and I am not talking community college . . . I am talking University . . . you should expect the best of yourself . . . and you will get the best person for yourself later down the line . . . if it is the same person . . . then it is meant to be . . . if not . . . so be it.
Marriage is wonderful . . . but not for everyone . . . if you decide to get married . . . play it safe
There is no right or wrong answer to this question, it varies from person to person, relationship to relationship, situation to situation. The first time I got married we had been in a relationship for almost 4 years and after 7 years of marriage it ended. In my current marriage we were in a relationship for only 6 months before we got married and after 7 years we are still married. In other words the length of time before really didn't matter it was more about the timing and the feelings involved. The best thing I can tell you is make sure that your both on the same page about thinking of marriage.
it depends but let him bring up the topic
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Depends on how quickly you want to ruin that relationship.
Why ruin a good thing by getting married???!!!???
how long have you've been in this relationship has it been a year or more? if it's been past six years you may want to re-think this relationship then again he may ask you the next year. It really depends on you and how long you want to wait. But personally I wish I had waited more four years to marry at least by then you really know them and there quirks are truely revealed.
If you're ready emotionally, mentally, physically and financially, then go for it.
Ladies looking for serious relationships/marriage, is sex overrated? Is good sex that important?
I'm just talking sexual intercourse. The guy is smart, attractive, perfect, even sexy but just not good at sex? He may just not be big enough down there. Still marry the guy right? If yes, then where do you get your sexual satisfaction? Cheat?Ladies looking for serious relationships/marriage, is sex overrated? Is good sex that important?
Sex can always improve and there is a sooo many things that can be done to do so. Yes, I would married the guy! I mean if I think that he is smart (that good he can learn), attractive, perfect and sexy then I really like him even if the sex is not great. I'm not a cheater! I hate cheaters! I've been cheated! I would never put someone I care through that!Ladies looking for serious relationships/marriage, is sex overrated? Is good sex that important?
There are a couple of things you could do...
Teach him to be great at oral sex. If he is able to make you scream with his mouth, then maybe a small penis is not as bad.
Or possibly talk with him about opening up your marriage in some way. Whether allowing each other to have sex with others, or possibly swinging together. You would be surprised at the number of guys who fantacize about their wives with other guys. A win/win for them.
Good luck
SL
cheat? are you high? have some moral please. Don't even think about cheating. If you are marrying the guy, you are making a committment about your loyality. Marry him if you like him, otherwise, find another guy. Just that simple.
masterbait if it's not that great! never cheat. good sex is very important to me but my fiance's very above average size...so i'm thinking if he was small thats what i would do. get off by myself!
no!
Sex can always improve and there is a sooo many things that can be done to do so. Yes, I would married the guy! I mean if I think that he is smart (that good he can learn), attractive, perfect and sexy then I really like him even if the sex is not great. I'm not a cheater! I hate cheaters! I've been cheated! I would never put someone I care through that!Ladies looking for serious relationships/marriage, is sex overrated? Is good sex that important?
There are a couple of things you could do...
Teach him to be great at oral sex. If he is able to make you scream with his mouth, then maybe a small penis is not as bad.
Or possibly talk with him about opening up your marriage in some way. Whether allowing each other to have sex with others, or possibly swinging together. You would be surprised at the number of guys who fantacize about their wives with other guys. A win/win for them.
Good luck
SL
cheat? are you high? have some moral please. Don't even think about cheating. If you are marrying the guy, you are making a committment about your loyality. Marry him if you like him, otherwise, find another guy. Just that simple.
masterbait if it's not that great! never cheat. good sex is very important to me but my fiance's very above average size...so i'm thinking if he was small thats what i would do. get off by myself!
no!
What do you think of a divorced person who is against gay marriage?
Is this hypocritical, that they should be free to wed and divorce at will, but think gay people shouldn't ever be allowed to marry?What do you think of a divorced person who is against gay marriage?
They're just depressed of their divorce and throwing their problems and hate on others....
(((Glorious)))
(Mwwah :P)What do you think of a divorced person who is against gay marriage?
Gay marriage is a beautiful thing.
The haters argue ';The Christian bible conedmns homosexuality';....
completely ignoring the 1st amendment: freedom of religion, they think they can impose christianity on the law.
Allowing same-sex marriages doesn't make a mockery out of the tradition..................the rate and frequency at which people marry and divorce, THAT, is a BIG JOKE. That makes marriage a big joke.
no it's about civil unions
marriage is from the church
the government makes civil unions
That they are homophobic using the ';sanctity of marriage'; to hide it.
I feel divorce is wrong. and I still don't know why gays want marriage do they think they will never get divorced.
i think they should mind their own.
as long as no one's pushing them into a gay marrage.
who cares let them get married.
Everyone has their own opinion about it.
as long as it was not another man he divorced i will vote for him
They're just depressed of their divorce and throwing their problems and hate on others....
(((Glorious)))
(Mwwah :P)What do you think of a divorced person who is against gay marriage?
Gay marriage is a beautiful thing.
The haters argue ';The Christian bible conedmns homosexuality';....
completely ignoring the 1st amendment: freedom of religion, they think they can impose christianity on the law.
Allowing same-sex marriages doesn't make a mockery out of the tradition..................the rate and frequency at which people marry and divorce, THAT, is a BIG JOKE. That makes marriage a big joke.
no it's about civil unions
marriage is from the church
the government makes civil unions
That they are homophobic using the ';sanctity of marriage'; to hide it.
I feel divorce is wrong. and I still don't know why gays want marriage do they think they will never get divorced.
i think they should mind their own.
as long as no one's pushing them into a gay marrage.
who cares let them get married.
Everyone has their own opinion about it.
as long as it was not another man he divorced i will vote for him
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