Tuesday, August 24, 2010

Is it true that it’s the Mormons who are behind the attempt to get Californians to vote no on gay marriage?

What’s the deal with that? I heard it cost $25 million to have the ballot papers printed up and distributed to polling booths and the Mormons and the ‘Knights of Columbus’ (I’ve never heard of them either) are mainly responsible for raising the funds. Do the Mormons think of themselves as moral guardians of the west coast or something? Is it true that it’s the Mormons who are behind the attempt to get Californians to vote no on gay marriage?
Even Obama and Biden have stated they oppose gay marriage. This is not just about marriage, it is also about judicial tyranny. 4 judges overruled a vote of the people and 2,000 years of legal precedence. Is it true that it’s the Mormons who are behind the attempt to get Californians to vote no on gay marriage?
No... the Mormons are just one of the many groups that have been taking up the cause.





I think they think of themselves as Christians, and Americans.





A lot of people are concerned about the way things went down in CA. The people had already voted against it. The judges overturned and rewrote the law. That's not what the court is supposed to do... they are supposed to interpret the law.





I support same-sex marriage, but not the way the issue was handled in CA.





A lot of conservatives and religious people are afraid that if we end up with a liberal president and a supermajority of liberals in the house, there will be more liberals appointed to the court and this might happen again in more conservative states. I think it's a reasonable concern, the court overstepped their boundaries.






Most fundamentalists think they are the moral guardians of whatever. Of course they are wrong, but it is a waste of time to argue the point. The Mormons are fundamentalists in that they accept the Bible as literal and their dogma is that the world was created some 6,000 years ago. They are scientifically challenged.





The Knights of Columbus is a Roman Catholic Church organization that is socially active.
It is a real pity that this church has chosen to interfere with a matter that should be handled State by State!


Religion is the party who has made the stand that a marital union is a man and a woman!


BUT, that does not cover the fact that there are other partners that want the same concession! They are in love, and want to be together. I know many couples who are married! I know many couple who are NOT married! and the ones who are not married, outnumber the ones who are!


Why? Because relationships, and commitment are not defined by a damned piece of paper!


Mormons are not the moral guardians of anything, except their own salvation, and they should just stick to that!! And they should keep their religious opinions to themselves, and stay out of politics!


What this comes down to?, is that they are persecuting Homosexuals, by attempting to deny them the right to be legally joined with the partner of their choice! Something that the Mormons enjoy, whenever they decide to get married!


Persecution is something that they are very familiar with,%26gt;%26gt; even today!


Perhaps they should remember what that feels like, and back off, and mind their own religious business!





You watched Bill Maher last night, huh??


Got to love that guy! He calls them as he sees them%26gt;%26gt; Ethically, and politically!
Mormons are definately contributing to the vote yes on Prop 8 campaign. They have had letters read by their bishops in their weekly meetings. They have organized email and phone campaigns and they are currently behind the ';WAVE'; campaign as well. Apparently 77% of all the money raised for this campaign has come from Mormon families and not all of them from CA.





They were even organizing a phone campaign with the volunteers based in Orem Utah.





I do not know what level the Knights of Columbus' has gone to but you can be assure that one of the main contribuiters to this campaign is the LDS church.
SUPPORTERS have raised $27.7 million, including $1.4 million from the Connecticut-based Knights of Columbus (Catholic Men's Club); $1.1 million from Irvine-based Fieldstead and Co. owned by financier Howard Ahmanson; $900,000 from retired pediatric surgeon John Templeton Jr. of Bryn Mawr, Pa.; and $500,000 from the Mississippi-based American Family Association.
(Genesis 2:22-24) . . .And Jehovah God proceeded to build the rib that he had taken from the man into a woman and to bring her to the man. 23 Then the man said: “This is at last bone of my bones And flesh of my flesh. This one will be called Woman, Because from man this one was taken.” 24 That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh. . .








(Jude 7) . . .So too Sod′om and Go·mor′rah and the cities about them, after they in the same manner as the foregoing ones had committed fornication excessively and gone out after flesh for unnatural use, are placed before [us] as a [warning] example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.





Any religion who actually understands and obeys gods laws in the bible is against gay marriage ...



What are you talking about? The Mormons and Knights of Columbus paid for the ballots? Those are provided by the government, and no campaigning materials are allowed in voting places. It's illegal. You can't distribute Vote for this or Vote against that at a polling place. So if they did, they wasted a lot of money.





A Vote for 8 is a Vote for Hate


Please vote No on Proposition 8
wanna outlaw religious liberty in America just to be able to marry your unnatural union? why don't you look at what Palestinian muslims do to them, and why their unnatural ones escape into the Jewish state to not be persecuted for their perversion, and go protest them. Don't interfere with religious liberty, unless you want religion to be dictated to you.
It's true that they have contributed a significant amount of money to support Prop. 8, as well as telling their members to donate time and money to support it.


They think they're the moral guardians of the world, frankly.
Contrary to what Yahuwceph thinks freedom of religion means, it means that he CAN'T force his religious beliefs on others, not that he can. You don't believe in same sex marriage? Then you're free to not marry someone of the same sex.
We're only one of the religions and groups that are promoting Prop. 8. There is nothing wrong with what we're doing either. While religions aren't allowed to support particular candidates they can support ballot issues.
I don't know. I don't care. Christ is my King, so the man-made government of California, (where I live), doesn't matter to me.





The whole world is climbing into the hand basket, and all I care is that I'm no part of it.
Mormons are part of it. The KOC are a Catholic fraternal service organization. However, we have very many people here in Cali who aren't Mormons or Catholics yet they vote yes on Prop 8 too.
The Mormons are among those who are in favor of a normal, traditional marriage.
Are the Mormons supporting prop. 8?


Yes.





Are they the only ones?


No.





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If you are going to say that maybe you should list all the groups who are doing that I know you hate Mormons but you need to stop generalizing just one group like you always do
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All I know is I support the living tradition of family and a couple in love... thus I support gay marriage!!!
them and many other morally upright people(Amen!!!!).cost is no object if its right.God will provide if we honor him.
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